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Middle Earth TWIMTBP are NVidia wasting my time and money.

AMDMatt said:
Hi Kaapstad,

Regarding 290X performance, try my custom crossfire profile below. I managed to beat the AFR friendly score i posted yesterday and i did it with greatly reduced menu flickering as well. Scaling was 99% for parts of the benchmark over two gpus.

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1. Add the Shadow Of Mordor profile to CCC.
2. Select Use AMD Pre-Defined profile
3. Type in Lost and then select Lost Planet 2 profile.
4. Click save and play!

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Are those options for selecting the crossfile profile type only available on newer cards or drivers as on my 6950 crossfire setup I don't have them in CCC? I get Enable Crossfire and Enable Frame Pacing but that's it? I know my drivers aren't the very latest though, 14.5 or 6 I think.
 
shankly1985 said:
No the scaling on AMD is fine, its the glitching by forcing game to use a profile it shouldn't thats the issue.
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No it's not, especially not for 3 or 4 cards. I think you also missed the point when I said proper scaling, not having to use different profiles or put up with flashing in menu's or in game.
 
nails666 said:
Are those options for selecting the crossfile profile type only available on newer cards or drivers as on my 6950 crossfire setup I don't have them in CCC? I get Enable Crossfire and Enable Frame Pacing but that's it? I know my drivers aren't the very latest though, 14.5 or 6 I think.
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Have you added the game exe to CCC? I think you need to do that before those options become available.
 
Kaapstad said:
You are totally wrong I am definitely not rich lol.

If the majority of people agree with you, I will be very happy to not post any mention of CF or SLI setups, not answer any questions about the subject and delete all my bench scores in all the threads I run. I have no desire to bore people if they are not interested.

Over to you.
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Its unfortunate that people make these comments. This is probably one of the reasons why many others don't bother showing their rig in their sig, if I had to guess.
What's an enthusiast hobby without enthusiasm, eh? :p
Don't think that you can confine enthusiasm to anyone's definition of too many cards..lol
Keep up the good work. I for one like seeing your benches :)
 
Kaapstad said:
Yesterday I downloaded Middle Earth to see how it ran on my 4 290Xs and it was buggy and total rubbish performance wise with negative scaling on the GPUs.

Today I tried it on my 4 Titans and shock and horror the performance was worse than on my 290Xs, the only good thing I could say about the NVidia cards was it was not glitch riddled but just rotten performance.

My question is when NVidia launch the Maxwell Titans early next year and I buy 4 of them, then try and run a TWIMTBP game and find out it does not run properly are NVidia taking the (put you own words here) out of me.

If NVidia claim a game is a TWIMTBP title, the least they can do is ensure something basic like SLI works properly.

I have not bothered posting any bench figures as it is the difference between very bad indeed and even worse lol.
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That seems to be a partern with TWIMTBP Games, AMD run bad on them, Nvidia even worse.....
 
AMDMatt said:
Have you added the game exe to CCC? I think you need to do that before those options become available.
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Ah thanks, yeah that might explain it, I thought they were just general settings. I'll give that a go when I get home, see if it helps my flickering menus at all.
 
So how was Kaap supposed to explain the situation then Dicehunter?

"Today I tested 4 undisclosed cards"

Dicehunter said:
People with those types of setups rarely have good social lives, I'd rather be out with my fiance than sat in a room trying to get higher numbers on a computer program than someone else or comparing drivers for the majority of my life ;)
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Oh dear, now stereotyping.

You'll find most of the top benchers on here are the most social, friendly, helpful people in the section.
 
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humbug said:
That seems to be a partern with TWIMTBP Games, AMD run bad on them, Nvidia even worse.....
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I think there's definitely a pattern with the last few big releases in the last year or so, but from both camps. Since the new consoles came out, the ported titles to PC have been generally terrible. COD Ghosts (nvidia) and tomb raider (AMD) had extremely poor performance on competing products at launch, which only got better with patches and driver releases. AMD's big release for this year (alien isolation) comes out in 5 days whilst Nvidia have had a few TWIMTBP titles this year, with watchdogs being the worst performer.

Sadly its easier to just blame AMD and Nvidia, then the companies they are sponsoring to endorse their products. Neither company makes the games and all they do is provide assistance to make sure their products work across the range. Optimisation often is forgone to a later date it seems, judging from a fair number of releases now.

With middle earth, shadows of mordor, the game doesn't have an SLI profile yet, but everything else appears to be fine for the settings your GPU is capable of. I run the game absolutely fine on a single 780 ti at the moment with everything on ultra apart from textures, due to my 3gb VRAM limiting me. I don't have an issue with that as it takes nothing away from the gameplay I'm experiencing.

Using results from a deeply flawed benchmark as some sort of indicator of true performance just isn't realistic. The results are skewered massively by the extremely high end max fps caused by the black screen at the start being longer than necessary. The min fps is also no where near accurate, as it depends on how the GPU you own handles its VRAM. The lows that people experience will never even be seen in the game, as it'll be an initial judder when your character phases into the world as the frames are being created and texture information is being dumped into the VRAM.

To properly gauge performance in this game, there should be a time demon in the second zone, which is far more graphical than the first, which only starts 2 seconds into the scene already being rendered, to ignore the super high and super low FPS we see on these benchmarks.
 
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Anyway the game isn't coded properly for 4 Titans or 4 x 290X's, With 2 cards it seems to run well though, Tried it on my mates rig that has 2 x 980's in it and the fps seem consistent at 1440P, Maybe we can expect a driver or game update for this.
 
Dicehunter said:
Anyway the game isn't coded properly for 4 Titans or 4 x 290X's, With 2 cards it seems to run well though, Tried it on my mates rig that has 2 x 980's in it and the fps seem consistent at 1440P, Maybe we can expect a driver or game update for this.
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Theres no SLI profile at all yet for this, so he'll only be using 1 card unless using a forced profile.
 
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