AMD begins slashing the prices of its Radeon R9 290, R9 290X GPUs

[humbug]

Not sure how old that chart is, but a lot of the stuff in orange is listed as 2014, and haven't AMD just said no new GPU's for the rest of this year, meaning that the power saving stuff is already here in tonga, or its late and it wont appearing till next year. Of course if that part is late then then it stands to reason some of the stuff after it will be late as well.

Thats right, no more new GPU's this year, its October, 20nm are earmarked for Feb 2015.

None of that power saving stuff is in Tonga, the chart clearly puts them in, again. 2015.

 

[Nexus18]

True, Nexus. But to be fair, mantle sucks right now

Not for me! Absolute god send for my rig in bf4

Spoiler

DX

Mantle

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not sure how old that chart is, but a lot of the stuff in orange is listed as 2014, and haven't AMD just said no new GPU's for the rest of this year, meaning that the power saving stuff is already here in tonga, or its late and it wont appearing till next year. Of course if that part is late then then it stands to reason some of the stuff after it will be late as well.

End of April this year at the Beema and Mullins launch.

 

[Uncle Petey]

Not for me! Absolute god send for my rig in bf4

Spoiler

DX

Mantle

Oops, I meant for xfire users. Wasn't sure about the single card situation.

 

[Final8y]

Oops, I meant for xfire users. Wasn't sure about the single card situation.

Only in BF4, lets not make it sound like in general.

 

[Uncle Petey]

True again!

 

[shankly1985]

Mine in BF4 been running very good, since last patch? Odd little CPU spike but all in all very smooth gameplay.

 

[Uncle Petey]

Oh dear, we're veering again.

So... How about those price cuts eh?

 

[Final8y]

LOL

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not sure what the problem is here. Pay less for a similar speed card which consumes more power and has a slightly older feature set,or pay more for a similar speed card which consumes less power.

If you look at the TPU figures for power consumption,there is a 57W to 78W difference in power consumption,with a reference R9 290.

This works out at a 31P to 41P a week difference if you play 30 hours of games.

This is £16 to £22 a year,if play games every week for the whole year at 18P a kWH.

Since most people probably take time off doing other things apart from gaming,then it means its probably closer to £15 a year.

 

[Uncle Petey]

We're talking about an industry where if a card beats another card by 5fps, the slightly slower card is 'owned'.

It's all about playing top trumps, even if it amounts to pretty much bugger all at the end of the day.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Even if I was to say run Vsync at 60hz this would drop the usage down from 100% and even lower temps a lot. You would still have the top GPU much hotter than running a single card.

Its just how it is, bottom GPU pushes how air into the case top GPU feeds from it. = higher temps even if you wasn't 100% load

Its how you tackle the issue with either more fans, better case, better PCI spacing etc

Its just a fact more Cards = more heat.

Neither are tackling the issue anymore than blowing on a forest fire

Potentially 290 Crossfire could be had for under 600 with blocks. That's pretty good going.

Multi GPU setups should be under water...

 

[humbug]

Not sure what the problem is here. Pay less for a similar speed card which consumes more power and has a slightly older feature set,or pay more for a similar speed card which consumes less power.

If you look at the TPU figures for power consumption,there is a 57W to 78W difference in power consumption,with a reference R9 290.

This works out at a 31P to 41P a week difference if you play 30 hours of games.

This is £16 to £22 a year,if play games every week for the whole year at 18P a kWH.

Since most people probably take time off doing other things apart from gaming,then it means its probably closer to £15 a year.

I never understood the 290/X Power consumption hyperbole in the first place.

7970 GE: 230 Watts
290: 240 Watts
290X: 270 Watts

GTX 770: 210 Watts
GTX 780: 230 Watts
GTX 780TI 250 Watts

 

[LambChop]

Just need to look at the sig and his usual response on mantle games "NOT BUYING ANY GAME WHICH SUPPORTS MANTLE" lol

No point trying to have a discusion with anyone who has a sig dedicated to a GPU brand

Do you not have a sig showing a dedicated GPU brand ?

 

[shankly1985]

I would like one day to try out water cooling. Although I think I would want to try out on parts I don't care about anymore.

 

[bru]

Thats right, no more new GPU's this year, its October, 20nm are earmarked for Feb 2015.

None of that power saving stuff is in Tonga, the chart clearly puts them in, again. 2015.

I suppose we might have different views on what is power saving related, but surely we can both agree that 'Intelligent boost and performance aware energy optimization' is.
As is 'Finer grained power tracking, increased voltage granularity'.
I could see how it could be argued that 'Voltage adaptive frequency scaling' isn't a power saving feature, but I would say it is as it implies that the chip scales higher with less voltage.

If these things are not in tonga and no new chips till 2015 then these features are late, as that chart clearly shows them in product in 2014. (bear in mind that Tonga was not launched when that chart was first shown.)

 

[Ayahuasca]

I would like one day to try out water cooling. Although I think I would want to try out on parts I don't care about anymore.

If you go watercooling make sure you do it right, some parts although more expensive make it much easier/better. Also go for a bigger radiator even if you're only going to use it on your CPU or GPU to begin with as it means further down the line you don't need to buy a new one to accommodate cooling the other component.

I've seen people say water isn't that effective on the newer Intel chips though as they can't transfer the heat away fast enough, so you only get slightly better temps under load as the top end air/AIO coolers.

 

[Nexus18]

Do you not have a sig showing a dedicated GPU brand ?

I don't think you get what I mean.....

My sig isn't solely dedicated to one thing unlike yours. Mine has my PC rig + my reviews, yours is just one picture of nvidia, which appears to depict a brand loyalty.......

 

[jwilliamson47]

having loyalty to a brand makes you easily exploitable, i thought people would have got this by now.

 

[Orangey]

Nvidia are making a killing on the 28nm maxwells

I wonder, what with all the switching back and forth between processes, redesigns, lower markup than what they'd like, cost of the PR blitz they used to brainwash people into buying weaker cards than we already had...