Ebola scaremongering?

scorza said:
But remember, according to the forum experts on Ebola, "it's not that contagious".
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Clearly it is very contagious. Never said it wasn't. It is just that you can protect yourself by; as an individual, having no contact with an Ebola patient and as a health cared worker, wearing correct PPE and adhering to processes. This however is not 100% risk free. If you compare this to Flu, pretty much you cannot protect yourself (vaccines aside) apart from some behavioral changes.

However as we have seen sometimes processes and PPE can fail. I do not think that the Ebola penetrated the PPE or jumped on her. They have not concluded how she got infected, however if it was a major lapse in process then I would expect more of the 50 or so people looking after the patient in the hospital to become ill, so far this has not been reported.

They have said in that article that they 'only' had bio lvl 2 PPE; well that is what they have in Africa. Though really they should have bio lvl 4 in developed countries. Hell they should have it in Africa as medical personnel are dying, however there are challenges using it and running it out there.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola
 
RaMDOM said:
Not in its 'mechanism of action', not sure what you mean by this, but will assume you means a full species jump. H5N1 is already airborne, however we have not seen sustained human to human transmission and hopefully never will. The 'good' thing about H5N1 is that it is fatal to the birds. So you know when you have a case or two. H7N9 however is not so is currently more of a worry as it becomes endemic and undetectable in bird populations unless you carry out blanket testing.
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From being transmisible between humans.

So.. Looks like something that should be able to be contained (especially in the west) is slowly encroaching into Spain.
This really needs to be nipped in the bud
 
al4x said:
From being transmisible between humans.

So.. Looks like something that should be able to be contained (especially in the west) is slowly encroaching into Spain.
This really needs to be nipped in the bud
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Not sure 'slowly encroaching' is correct. There is one confirmed case with 3 suspected. It is called a cluster, and there will likely be more in Europe, probably within the medical community, which is why we need a vaccine asap.

Slowly encroaching is more of a term I would use to describe the spread of Malaria across Europe.

You are right though - it needs to be nipped in the bud.
 
I've no problem with it, as long as we don't bring them back when they get infected
 
I didn't read your link, assumed it was sone more volunteers. I don't think anyone should go in or out of infected areas. We certainly shouldn't bring infected people back to the UK and we shouldn't order anyone to go there.
 
jkb said:
I didn't read your link, assumed it was sone more volunteers. I don't think anyone should go in or out of infected areas. We certainly shouldn't bring infected people back to the UK and we shouldn't order anyone to go there.
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the idea is we build hospitals and treat them and this thing ends with a few thousand dead in Africa, rather than doing nothing and it ending with millions dead across the world including here and severely affecting trade and the economy.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Thing is that Birdflu happened in a part of the world where people actually listen to medical advice and not think this is some sort of witch craft. When the message got out that you should stay at home and wear masks, people did that, and even NOW it is a practice that everyone in Asia does.
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I'm a little curious, what exactly is the practice that even now, everyone in Asia does? They absolutely listen to medical advice (hell, a 3rd hand rumour tends to be enough to set people off), but that reads as if everyone is still worrying and wearing masks all the time.
 
Tefal said:
the idea is we build hospitals and treat them and this thing ends with a few thousand dead in Africa, rather than doing nothing and it ending with millions dead across the world including here and severely affecting trade and the economy.
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I get that but bringing infected people back to the UK makes no sense. It didn't take much for someone in Madrid to become infected because the Spanish brought an infected person back. Better to stop anyone travelling to and from infected areas, and I'm saying that as someone who is flying home from Madrid tomorrow :eek:
 
Thought this was interesting..
Male patients must be informed that their sperm may still be contagious for a period of three months after leaving hospital and Ebola or Marburg may be transmitted during sexual intercourse. During that period, the patient must either abstain from sex or use condoms. The medical team must provide a sufficient supply of condoms. This warning must be stated on the medical certificate issued on release
Src:WHO
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Doubt they'll hear about it. It's contained in a factual document on the WHO web site. They'll never look there for anything newsworthy.
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29541840
Isn't this a little pointless? What about travellers who are infected but in the incubation phase - they won't be detected.
I guess you might argue it could prevent some from getting in - but if they're at that stage already you're gonna have your hands full quarantining an entire flight!
 
Domo said:
Doubt they'll hear about it. It's contained in a factual document on the WHO web site. They'll never look there for anything newsworthy.
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They can trawl through twitter for nothing newsworthy and bring it to your sets.
 
Rather than transporting them back to their home countries and risking further infection, I don't understand why they don't just set up a hospital ship to treat those Westerners who may have contracted the virus.
 
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