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DIY electrical work?
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My boiler is plugged into a socket too.
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Yep just spur off it. It's easy and completely within regs. As said before make sure that it is rcd protected if not put an rcd socket in.
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It's not, it's 240v
We call it 230v to fit in with Europe.
Put a tester on any socket outlet and you will see at least 240v, maybe as much as 250v depending on the time of day.
So yes we have 230v in the UK but it's actually 240v.
(Not that it matters).
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If your boiler is plugged into a socket outlet, it should have RCD protection.
RCD protection is required for all circuits that have socket outlets to protect against shock when outside the equipotential zone.
RCD protection on a boiler circuit can be a nuisance and isn't required if it is wired as a 'fixed appliance' i.e. directly into a SW/FU Spur.
So the answer to the original question - Can I add a socket to a heating circuit is probably no as you are adding a socket outlet to a circuit that (probably) has no RCD protection.
(taken to the letter of the regs - 17th)
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Currently nominally 230V, which allows -6% to +10%. So Brings us inline with European harmonization 216.2 and 253V.
All design calculations are done at 230V , so simple its 230V...
And again why electrical advice is allowed on this forum from people whom have generally no idea is beyond me.
All design calculations are done at 230V , so simple its 230V...
And again why electrical advice is allowed on this forum from people whom have generally no idea is beyond me.
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Measured values are still closer to 240v in my experience.
The purpose of "Part P" wasn't to improve safety!
(DIY Types would simply ignore it and carry on DIYing, Non-DIY types would still call an electrician/handyman)
It was to intimidate non-DIY types into demanding paperwork from the people who they got in to do the job making it more difficult for them to do the job "Cash in hand"
Basically it was a tax thing!
(The recent amendments are basically a public admission that the whole concept is unworkable and unenforceable)
(DIY Types would simply ignore it and carry on DIYing, Non-DIY types would still call an electrician/handyman)
It was to intimidate non-DIY types into demanding paperwork from the people who they got in to do the job making it more difficult for them to do the job "Cash in hand"
Basically it was a tax thing!
(The recent amendments are basically a public admission that the whole concept is unworkable and unenforceable)
The world of electrics is one of total utter rubbish from every angle
Even in a rental property you do not need to get anything signed off, checked, professionally installed, etc. There is nothing to govern anything inside a house that you own. You can literally do what you wish.
The number of times you hear people banging on about regs, its laughable. Use a bit of common sense along with a modern dual RCD board and a monkey could wire a house in an extremely safe manner.
The world of electrics is one of total utter rubbish from every angle
Even in a rental property you do not need to get anything signed off, checked, professionally installed, etc. There is nothing to govern anything inside a house that you own. You can literally do what you wish.
The number of times you hear people banging on about regs, its laughable. Use a bit of common sense along with a modern dual RCD board and a monkey could wire a house in an extremely safe manner.
That is simply not true, certain electrical works are classed as notifiable and require checking by a registered body.
You may be quite happy doing the work yourself and not getting the required approval, but but an extension to a property without all the boxes being ticked and your going to face a bit of pain if you try to sell it.
So by all means do your own electrical work, but if it is notifiable get it signed off.
No it cant, you can sell a burnt down wreck with live wired spikes sticking out of the walls if you want.
This is yet another example of this utter rubbish that surrounds domestic electrics. The absolute worst case scenario is that someone who goes for a full survey will get a note on it saying that the electrics might want checking in the future as the relevant paperwork for the changes cannot be sourced.
This is yet another example of this utter rubbish that surrounds domestic electrics. The absolute worst case scenario is that someone who goes for a full survey will get a note on it saying that the electrics might want checking in the future as the relevant paperwork for the changes cannot be sourced.
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Depends if the op has a 17th edition split board if so then the whole installation is rcd protected. Best that op post a photo of his consumer unit
Yep, and you dont provide it. So what? The last house i sold they requested certificates for the boiler maintenance and all sorts, i just replied saying "none". You can sell a house in any condition you want. If a buyer were to pull out based on an electrical regs certificate then that's a small risk, but its very unlikely.
This is worst case too, in most cases without building onto the house the electrics will likely not even get a mention bar a one liner in a full survey.
You might occasionally be asked as a blanket question as i was for the boiler service history (wtf!) last time i sold a house, i just replied "none" in the answer box. It wasnt mentioned beyond that.Who will? Who are "they"?
I have been involved in the purchase and sale of quite a few houses recently and Jez is right, electrics and gas get no more than a one line mention.
We were asked for a "Gas Safety Certificate" recently. We just said we don't have one, and if you want one Mr Buyer, you can pay for it. He didn't, so that was that.
Sorry my statement wasn't very clear.
It more to do with the assumptions people are making that you can do any electrical work on a house and not need it checked. This is not true.
What I was trying to convey was that in the case of building an extension to your home that it will have to comply with the Building Regs and in some cases the electrical installation is notifiable. Without the correct checks you then would not receive the completion certificate and that is a big problem if you try to sell the house.
I agree that for adding an additional socket etc there's no need to do anything and you can quite happily install it yourself. It was more the "it's my house I can do anything I like" attitude which can get you in quite serious trouble.
Prosecutions for not following the Building Regs are rare but they do happen and they can be very costly.
It more to do with the assumptions people are making that you can do any electrical work on a house and not need it checked. This is not true.
What I was trying to convey was that in the case of building an extension to your home that it will have to comply with the Building Regs and in some cases the electrical installation is notifiable. Without the correct checks you then would not receive the completion certificate and that is a big problem if you try to sell the house.
I agree that for adding an additional socket etc there's no need to do anything and you can quite happily install it yourself. It was more the "it's my house I can do anything I like" attitude which can get you in quite serious trouble.
Prosecutions for not following the Building Regs are rare but they do happen and they can be very costly.