How are prescriptions checked?

If you believe that the NHS was founded to allow people to pass on genetic illness onto multiple offspring, pay for IVF treatment for people who decided their career was more important and left it too late, medically treat the result of poor lifestyle changes, medically treat aged people without good reason etc then knock yourself out.

Well, I never stated any of that. I said free healthcare for everyone, not everything. I'm definitely not getting into an argument over semantics or involved in a convoluted battle of opinion with you that's for sure. Sufficed to say, if the health of an individual is at risk then healthcare should be entirely free...this shouldn't include lifestyle choices such as IVF, but should include illness or injury if caused by lifestyle choices (such as cancer through smoking etc) prevention should be foremost and no one should die or remain ill and untreated because of financial constraints. That is my opinion, I realise that such a system may encourage abuses and can have consequences such as you point out regarding children, but then this isn't Sparta...we have to deal with those consequences in order to promote the greater good that Universal Free Health Care provides to the population as a whole.
 
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So what exactly is your problem with what I said then?

I said that because you said this:

Health care should be entirely free, however society has its priorities set by fools and greed for the most part so we are stuck with it being mostly free.

Sorry but I took entirely free to mean what you said.
 
There was a story in the good old DM about how there is going to be a crackdown - so basically pharmacy are forced to check and if they don't then they risk losing their license:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ree-medicine-pretending-children-elderly.html

I personally do get free medication. I'm on Thyroxine which means I get a medical exemption certificate, renewed every few years.
However, I personally don't think it's fair. I should get my thyroxine free and I should get some anti-rejection (post transplant) medication free, but the rest I should pay for. But it's a blanket exemption, not a per-item one.
I am asked each time to show my certificate.

Easiest way as I see it is to increase everyone's NI contributions a year by the amount an NHS "season ticket" costs and give all the medication out for free.
 
Prescription fees should be administered like an excess charge on an insurance policy. It is a way of pushing some of the costs to the recipient.

Surely there is a business opportunity here ? If fraud amounts to hundreds of millions of pounds then a company should come up with a system they can successfully administer to reduce fraud and scoop some of the savings.
 
before scotland went free prescriptions i had a medical expemtion card - due to thyroid problems
my local pharmacist basically said if the prescription included thyroxine then i didnt need to show my exemption card but if it didnt then they would want to see it - in the end they just made a note of it on their system and i never needed to show it
 
Simple way to fix this and I do wonder why the Government have not done it yet. Just tax people more!!!!!

Will be just like all other taxes, you pay for something that you very rarely use in some cases. So I really doesn't matter if you earn millions or on the dole.
 
So what exactly is your problem with what I said then?

I said that because you said this:

Sorry but I took entirely free to mean what you said.

You said it should not be (mostly) free..I think it should be entirely free. If you are ill or injured you simply should not be charged.

It's really simple, I'm surprised you are having difficulty with it.
 
Prescription charge can be a joke though as often the medications are cheaper than the charge, most common generic medicines cost pence, but you still need a prescription

You should pay the cost of the meds if less than the £8 or just the £8 if it's more
 
I've only skimmed the thread so apologies if this information has already been given.

Pharmacies are meant to ask for proof of exemption at the point of collection, but cannot withhold the item(s) if no proof is given - there's a box on the back of the script for the pharmacy to mark if proof of exemption is NOT seen. Generally speaking I don't bother where a patient is obviously medically exempt (e.g. script for insulin), though they do still need to sign it. People exempt due to receipt of benefits (other than WTFC where you're sent a little card) very rarely have any proof since the demise of the Post Office book, and generally aren't happy to show people their letter of entitlement as it also says how much money they get.

Paper prescriptions are sent away every month to the NHSBSA for payment for the medicines, fees etc. A proportion of exempt scripts are checked through whichever government database applies (benefits, medical exemption, pre-payment etc) and if a fraudulent claim is found, the patient is contacted and fined. They even send you a copy of the back of the script in question. The pharmacy is NOT liable unless they were daft enough to fill out the back themselves. There is a phone number available for reporting known fraudulent claims.

If you're averaging 4 or more items every 3 months get a pre-payment - the item charge keeps going up but the cost of a PPC hasn't moved in years.

As for patients coming into England with Scottish or Welsh scripts - a charge will be levied if they are not exempt for one of the reasons applied in England. I once had to charge a Welsh patient for insulin as he hadn't bothered to renew his medical exemption as scripts are free over there, and thus couldn't make a declaration in England. I did phone the NHS first to check, and he took it very well all things considered.

I believe that if you take an English script (or have an English address) into Scotland or Wales you still get charged.
 
How about a blanket charge of a quid on any medical prescription, regardless whether for 1 item or multiple? Call it a prescription transaction charge.
 
.I think it should be entirely free. If you are ill or injured you simply should not be charged.

It's really simple, I'm surprised you are having difficulty with it.

So why did you say this then:

Well, I never stated any of that. I said free healthcare for everyone, not everything.

No wonder I am having difficulty when you have, in the space of one page, said two very different things!
 
I must admit I find prescription charges high.

I have in the past gone without essential medication because I simply couldn't afford it.

About Third Opinion:
Location:
West Sussex
Occupation:
Own a business in adult training. :confused:

So you really couldn't afford a prescription for essential medication. Sorry but I don't believe you. I am sure if you had shifted your priorities you could have afforded it quite easily.
 
About Third Opinion:
Location:
West Sussex
Occupation:
Own a business in adult training. :confused:

So you really couldn't afford a prescription for essential medication. Sorry but I don't believe you. I am sure if you had shifted your priorities you could have afforded it quite easily.
Why would his current occupation make prescriptions certainly affordable in the past (he is clearly speaking in the past tense)

The world got on fine before and would get on fine after the world's two biggest economies both require people to have the finances for health and the countries seem to do just fine even if certain individuals suffer. Which of course is a shame but it's also life. You have to accept not everyone will get the best deal.
Those nations do just fine, but a huge portion of the population who reside within them die from preventable illness. I'm not so sure you should be holding up China & the USA as a model for any form of 'good national health'.

Did you hit 50 or something recently as I've noticed a lurch towards the right?.
 
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I've also never been asked but then again Metformin gives it away that I'm exempt.
I did originally wonder why all my other medication was free and not just the Metformin.
Before I was diagnosed with diabetes I used to pay a yearly one off fee which reduced my bill by £150.
 
I pre-pay for mine, and have never been asked to produce my card to prove. Hopefully it catches up with those that defraud the NHS.

I have a pre-payment certificate and have been asked to produce it on many occasion. My local pharmacy keep the details on file so I don't need to produce it there.
 
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