I don't believe it's always in our best interest to report on these things. Look at the USA over the last 10 years and how much fear people have of terrorist attacks.
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I don't believe it's always in our best interest to report on these things. Look at the USA over the last 10 years and how much fear people have of terrorist attacks.
A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, defending it with his life, a subject does not!
Starship Troopers?
Yep, sorry it's one of my favourite films.
For many it's the concept of inherited positions by birthright, namely the head of state which goes against the very principles of equality.
It's maintenance is based on tradition, something which unless it can be suitable justified as to why it should continue isn't valuable from my perspective (along with many other people who would prefer to live in a nation without a Royal Family). Support for the Monarch is actually well distributed across all socioeconomic groups (as is the preference to remove it) - pretty much refuting the popular argument it's just poor people being jealous, the only really strong correlation with monarchy support which stands out is Conservative leaning over 50's (which this thread is a good indicator of this trend).
Over time support will begin to dwindle, like many things of this nature it's a generational thing.
It's maintenance is based on tradition, something which unless it can be suitable justified as to why it should continue isn't valuable from my perspective (along with many other people who would prefer to live in a nation without a Royal Family). Support for the Monarch is actually well distributed across all socioeconomic groups (as is the preference to remove it) - pretty much refuting the popular argument it's just poor people being jealous, the only really strong correlation with monarchy support which stands out is Conservative leaning over 50's (which this thread is a good indicator of this trend).
Over time support will begin to dwindle, like many things of this nature it's a generational thing.
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Just like a president in countries like Germany, Ireland etc?
As many people have already said, It's the Queen's own money that she pays to the government in the first place. It's not a case of money from tourism - it's simply a case that the monarchy costs us nothing.
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Neither am I? Your point ?
The issue is birthright and the fact that we have no true rights as long as the monarch remains nor can we be considered a true democracy, which in 2014 is frankly ridiculous
Presuming of course that people don't change their opinions over time ...
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I don't think that's the case. The monarchy have an ace up their sleeves which is William and Kate, they are very popular both domestically with the new generations and internationally.
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We have plenty of rights, which is why we live in a constitutional monarchy not a dictatorship.
When was the last time a monarch actually overturned a decision of our government? I don't see it as an actual problem. The whole outcome of the restoration of the monarchy after Cromwell was that the people wielded power over the Crown, not the other way round. If anything it was the reason why we didn't get shot of the monarchy when pretty much all the other nations did 100 - 150 years ago.
Personally I think getting rid of the monarchy because of birthright issues is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.
I am a British Citizen, not a British Subject. So are you. Very few people are Subjects since 1983.
Looking at the poll data on support for a republic shows clear signs of generation changes in attitude.
Support for a republic by age band.
18-34 - 18%
35-54 - 15%
55+ - 9%
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/ipsos-mori-diamond-jubilee-poll-may-2012-tables.pdf
Interestingly support for a republic is highest in London (20%) & lowest in the Midlands (9%) & unsurprisingly the lowest support comes from Conservative supports (3%).
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I'd need to see trend data to be able to draw a conclusion.
It very well may be, generational could be a hundred years plus.Well at that rate of change there will be a clear majority in about 300 years...
But the tide will turn on this, that I'm confident of.