Why?
Queen Elizabeth murder plot foiled
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Why?
how can you be confident of it - I mean for the sake of comparison, do you have the data giving the % approval of the older brackets when they were in the younger brackets. I mean do we know for sure that that % we're currently seeing amongst younger people is significantly different to the past?
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I'd imagine they'd boots on the ground in the middle east if it were to happen.
Any change in foreign policy as a result of a terrorist incident is a victory of sorts for the terrorists.
As for what would happen if someone assassinated the Queen, a period of mourning and self-reflection, a new monarch is coronated and then everything goes back to normal.
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I agree, but I think that result would still be inevitable.
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ZOMG... it happened......... we agree on something.
When terrorists attack and governments change policy and remove freedoms because they are scared and play on the populations fear to implement policy change, the terrorists are winning. Their goal is terror, which is what we suffer from after an attack. Using terror to change how we live is precisely their goal, the people they try and kill is just to induce the terror, the actual people they kill isn't their end goal and we play right into it with every attack.
By playing into doing exactly what they want we encourage them to continue. If we went about life as normal, mourn and move on then the terrorists wouldn't actually be achieving their goals, our "way of life" is maintained and they are just killing themselves for no reason, it would discourage them continuing.
Same with the wars, they attack, we attack them back in ridiculous over the top ways and we've destabilised the entire middle east with uprisings and civil war which has allowed a group like Isis more power than any militant islamic group has ever had in the region. THe war they provoked us into has simply raised support in the region for militant action and people to fight back against regions that support the west. We've drastically increased the number of terrorists and anti west supporters in the region.
Everything we've done in the past 14 years has played directly into their hands.... and we still haven't learned the lesson yet.
Actually they make us around 100x what they cost in tourism alone....
I have to agree with Burnsy, if they were found to be affiliated to IS there would be an all out war again. IS would be ground into dust. The west still has power, it just lacks the political will to act.
Killing a head of state is not the same thing as letting off a bomb or something.
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I'm glad the plot failed for numerous reason.
1. I'd never be glad in the death of an old women (As much as I dislike the monarchy).
2. Had they succeeded it would be used as a political tool to garner public support for further military intervention (which ultimately, would cause further acts of terrorism) not to mention cost countless innocent civilian lives.
3. I don't think I could stand the constant media coverage, it was bad enough with Diana.
1. I'd never be glad in the death of an old women (As much as I dislike the monarchy).
2. Had they succeeded it would be used as a political tool to garner public support for further military intervention (which ultimately, would cause further acts of terrorism) not to mention cost countless innocent civilian lives.
3. I don't think I could stand the constant media coverage, it was bad enough with Diana.
The problem is as those in the 18-34 age group age they generally become more relaxed with regard the monarchy. The young are always more likely to be counterculture, as the get older their attitudes change.
I'm afraid the the chances of the UK becoming a republic are slim to none...even generationally.
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I imagine the perpetrators would get a thoroughly patriotic shoeing off countless crowd members.
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Are you saying that because you are against the monarchy, you think it is a shame that Elizabeth wasn't murdered by terrorists?
I doubt he has thought that deeply about it....or thought at all for that matter.
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We'd to re-take the Midlands first.
If only that were true. I doubt that Abdul the suicide bomber is on a philosophical quest to force our governments to destroy our freedom.. The mindset of these people is quite simple: their culture is under attack by our culture (which isn't "intentional", the Western way of life is simply a better way of life from every point of view which allows our culture to contaminate theirs), they are poor, they have little/no hope for a better future. They don't have the means to respond in a traditional manner to the threat they perceive (like Russia, China or North Korea do) so they resort to these desperate and futile acts.
The terrorists want to kill us, they want us to fear them and to leave them alone. We're there mainly for the fossil fuel. That's it.
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