Brazilian Grand Prix 2014, São Paulo - Race 18/19
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Alonso saying we wont know his decision until after abu dhabi... whilst mclaren have given him until abu dhabi to make a decision. Interesting. Has his contract got a clause in which allows him to join merc if nico or lewis drop out? 
It's not banter. Banter is playful, polite exchange of teasing remarks, hopefully a dash of wit too.
If there were a scale between banter and trolling, you're at the trolling end of the spectrum with that one...
The completely pointless pedantry to make a point that doesn't need to be made is probably what's confusing most people.
But hes got a point. An engine freeze is one thing. Being better at aero is another.
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Mercedes seem to have pretty good aero too from what we have seen on aero heavy tracks. Horner just doesn't like the fact that it isn't a bull dominating. At least this time we have two team mates being allowed to fight.
Very true.
Not true at all, it was actually pretty even apart from one lap on a (very) used set of tyres, other wise Rosberg managed the lead perfectly without pushing too hard (which is actually what Lewis ended up doing and throwing the race away)
A significant difference is that Red Bull dominated predominantly down to measures that were in every teams scope to change - he can't make the Renault engine any better than it is now, he's reliant on Renault, so as a team Red Bull are effectively powerless to fight back, especially so if a freeze remains and Renault can't claw back any performance against the Mercedes unit.
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The point being that car upgrades are allowed, so there was nothing stopping McLaren/Mercedes/Ferrari/etc from catching up to Red Bull, but Red Bull are unable to catch Mercedes because you're restricted in what you can upgrade in the power unit.
Why do people think unfreezing the engines will make any difference, aren't Mercedes also capable of making theirs better or something?
Even if they stay frozen there is a certain amount of development that can be done, so all manufactuers have the possibility of gaining more performance either way. Unfreezing just adds even more cost.
Shame Hamilton spun today, would have no doubt won otherwise.
Even if they stay frozen there is a certain amount of development that can be done, so all manufactuers have the possibility of gaining more performance either way. Unfreezing just adds even more cost.
Shame Hamilton spun today, would have no doubt won otherwise.
Button has a world championship in him says Herbert.
To be fair , Button is STILL ahead of Massa in the WDC who is in a far better car.
He has also battled fairly but tough with Vettel, Alonso, Kimi, and come out in front some of the time.
No reason at all he couldn't compete with Lewis/Rosberg in the Merc, or if McLaren get a decent engine from Honda and get their finger out of their *** in regards to Aero wit Alonso in the same car next season
Of course Merc also has the ability to develop their engine further, but the engines SHOULD be closer in general to what they have been this season. Merc's main engine advantage is down to packaging (or that was the theory going around earlier this season), now Ferrari, Renault (and Honda) know what Merc have done , in theory copying it and developing from there should decrease the margin even if Merc come up with something else
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how can rosberg think he had lewis covered when he did not maintain a gap, did not make up 7 seconds from lewis's spin and generally was put under a lot of pressure. He kept him behind with very good consistent driving however he was not faster.
Herbert/Hill both thought Hamilton would have walked off had he made the 'hammer time' stick..
I can't take anything away from Nico, he drove a flawless race, but with Lewis able to cruise up behind and stay relatively close in dirty air (even DRS assisted) shows that Lewis probably did have an advantage in outright race pace.
But it's all conjecture, I just hope there are no DNF's and no dirty tricks by either of them at the last race, by rights even finishing second will do, so it's going to take something bizarre for Lewis not to win, he's slightly behind on DNF's and Qually issues to Nico so you'd like to think that he would have a touch more luck due..
Belting race by Button as well today, I will be sad to not see him in F1 next year.
the crucial word there is "covered" which Rosberg DID do (otherwise Lewis would have won)
We have no way of knowing what would have happened in Brazil IF lewis didn't spin
Rosberg did enough without ruining his tyres, pushing his engine too much or anything else that could have caused a DNF or anything else
Of course pundits are always correct......
At the end of the day Rosberg was faster over every session this weekend, its impossible to know one way or the other
Yeh, credit to Rosberg. I think Lewis was clearly a few tenths a lap faster in the race but the spin cost him big time and it looks like he only has himself to blame for that.
Rosberg did what he needed to do, drive a flawless race with no mistakes and good pace.
Rosberg did what he needed to do, drive a flawless race with no mistakes and good pace.