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So this is interesting I think.

I am very happy with my monitor. Makes games look amazing, great for productivity and I thought it had next to no bleed. But here are 3 photos taken with an iPhone 6:

1. in a dimly lit room (as dark as I ever normally play/work) with a largely dark screenshot from Elite (didn't want to cheat with a bright screen).

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There is clearly some bleed, especially the top right, but I think that's fine, even great! It's a minor limitation of the current state of technology that I am happy to put up with for the other benefits

2. Same image In a totally black room.

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Bleed a bit more obvious here, but even having paid £1K I would be happy. Others may differ, I don't know.

3. Totally black room with a totally black screen. First time I've tried this!

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Horrific!! Significantly worse than it looks in real life, but I have to be honest, even in real life it does't look great! The camera exaggerates the effect, but it is clear this test does not do the screen any favours!

Now I guess if I'd just seen this image I would straight away be on to LG/OC for a replacement and if I saw this on a forum maybe I'd never have bought. But, the thing is, I think my screen is great. I'm genuinely very happy.

So, it seems to me that if you really intend to use this screen in total darkness for things that have a lot of black in the corners (eg. 16:9 TV/movies) maybe this isn't the techology for you. If the bleed in other shots looks bad to you, ditto. But, I think for many this is a really beautiful screen.
 
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Thanks atomic, yes your video does show it to be ok though still not sure if I would be 100% happy but if you are then I guess that's great for you.

What shocks me more is jong1 it was your monitor that made me believe there was good ones but with your new photos that looks worse than mine on the black screen! however perhaps unlike mine I see it even in a lit room and it bugs me and I guess it always will.

It would be interesting if we did a poll how many people would be happy with a screen that has back light bleed, like you say this monitor is amazing and makes games just something else but when you have just spent £1000 you don't want any defects like a glow in the corner when your playing games or watching movies, sure its looks fine on normal desktop usage unless there is a black background but I use it in all scenarios.

But i think it boils down to this... how much is £1000 worth to you, how hard do you work for that £1000 and when you spend it on a monitor are you going to be happy with say a sub standard product or do you at this price expect a perfect quality monitor with no faults that has been rigorously checked for quality control.
I know which I go for so I guess maybe I'm the minority here but I'm sticking with it.
 
just for the thread of it

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so as I say jong1 yours looks worse on just the black screen but when im playing elite dangerous I don't want to see what looks like a fire burning to my bottom right.

anyway as soon as OC contact me and take this back I will keep quiet and move along

im sure like you jong1 someone would be happy with my monitor if they get it a a B grade price, hey even I might be tempted depending on the price
 
Yeah, I was surprised! But, As I said, the camera certainly exaggerates. You can see how grey and noisy the middle of the screen is compared to the blacks of the screenshot above, which was in the same pitch black room. The camera is really boosting the ISO. Without all of using identical equipment with the same ISO setting I think it's hard to compare. Atomic's video clearly is nowhere near as "cranked up".

If I hadn't bought yet I guess I would be thinking whether the top 2 shots are good enough for me and even if they are whether I will watch material with black borders, like 16:9 stuff, in a near black room, where a glow is definitely visible. It will be really interesting to see if Dell or Samsung can completely avoid this. Somehow I doubt it, but we'll see.
 
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Yeah, I was surprised! But, As I said, the camera certainly exaggerates. You can see how grey and noisy the middle of the screen is compared to the blacks of the screenshot above, which was in the same pitch black room. The camera is really boosting the ISO. Without all of using identical equipment with the same ISO setting I think it's hard to compare. Atomic's video clearly is nowhere near as "cranked up".

If I hadn't bought yet I guess I would be thinking whether the top 2 shots are good enough for me and even if they are whether I will watch material with black borders, like 16:9 stuff, in a near black room, where a glow is definitely visible. It will be really interesting to see if Dell or Samsung can completely avoid this. Somehow I doubt it, but we'll see.
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The Samsung uses a VA panel. Generally much more effective at blocking light and not effected by off-angle glow either. It is likely to be the best choice if you're sensitive to this sort of issue and generally admire strong contrast, but it will be a bit weaker in other ways.
 
Thanks again atomic, but you see it in my in game experience, would you be happy with that?

pcm2 thanks for the info perhaps the samsung is for me, funny enough I spoke to them today and expressed my issues regarding the issues I've had with lg and they reassured me that this would not be the case with there monitors and if I had a bad one that it would be exchanged with no hassles, however this was by phone but I intend to email the same question and hopefully get it in writing.
 
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Thanks again atomic, but you see it in my in game experience, would you be happy with that?

pcm2 thanks for the info perhaps the samsung is for me, funny enough I spoke to them today and expressed my issues regarding the issues I've had with lg and they reassured me that this would not be the case with there monitors and if I had a bad one that it would be exchanged with no hassles, however this was by phone but I intend to email the same question and hopefully get it in writing.
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I've been discussing this with them since seeing their model at IFA. They seem pretty confident that theirs will please those who like uniform backlighting. The Dell (IPS model like the LG) also has a 'uniformity compensation' mode, incidentally. It remains to be seen how effective this would be at reducing this sort of issue, it may be more to improve the uniformity of lighter colours really.
 
My advice to manufacturers is put the problems if they cannot be done correctly in the description of their products ie. This monitor gives excellent colours and immersive experience blah blah blah .. Small print: this product may show signs of back light bleed/ips glow that cannot be helped due to current technology... Sorry but that's the way it is

Least as consumers we have a choice to take that chance and know it but until then to me and many others this is classed as a defect.
 
BingBongBing,

I don't want to be an apologist for your issues and for sure I believe suppliers need to be very, very understanding about returns for such an expensive item with such obviously imperfect characteristics. But as big a concern for me in your Elite screenshot is the very poor black level. That would bug me as much if not more. Again, this may be the camera overexposing the shot, but if I was judging the bleed of your screen I would want to see a shot with proper dark blacks (the blackness of space similar to the blackness of your room behind the monitor). Have you tried turning the brightness down on the set, when using in a pitch black room?
 
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Thanks again atomic, but you see it in my in game experience, would you be happy with that?

pcm2 thanks for the info perhaps the samsung is for me, funny enough I spoke to them today and expressed my issues regarding the issues I've had with lg and they reassured me that this would not be the case with there monitors and if I had a bad one that it would be exchanged with no hassles, however this was by phone but I intend to email the same question and hopefully get it in writing.
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the in game shot of elite looks terrible, but how much of that is due to poor camera shot lol, i wouldnt accept a monitor where by levels look so bad it no longer looks black in game any more.
 
To be fair your right the camera shot is bad but as I stated earlier I didn't buy this monitor to take photos of it.

If you have played the game you will realise that I'm sitting outside a space station lit up so the blacks will look lighter, game looks and plays great on this monitor but the glowing corners ruin it.

I also tried the monitor with various brightness settings even at 0 but the problem is still there, it appears the only way to get rid of the problem is to gently push the corner in but on a brand new monitor I shouldn't have to do that.

Just wish I was as happy as you guys are with it but sadly I'm not :(
 
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To be fair your right the camera shot is bad but as I stated earlier I didn't buy this monitor to take photos of it.

If you have played the game you will realise that I'm sitting outside a space station lit up so the blacks will look lighter, game looks and plays great on this monitor but the glowing corners ruin it.

I also tried the monitor with various brightness settings even at 0 but the problem is still there, it appears the only way to get rid of the problem is to gently push the corner in but on a brand new monitor I shouldn't have to do that.

Just wish I was as happy as you guys are with it but sadly I'm not :(
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yours must be worse than what im experiencing, there is bound to be some with faults thats the nature of technology, hope you get it sorted out.
 
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yours must be worse than what im experiencing, there is bound to be some with faults thats the nature of technology, hope you get it sorted out.
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IPS doesnt have the best black levels and they tend to backlight glow. It has fantastic colours and viewing angles though which sells to many.
 
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