Ferguson and Michael Brown

Anyone listen to Radio 4 this morning? They had a BBC reporter live on air from Ferguson. During the broadcast you could hear a loud gunshot, then a few seconds later the reporter said he was having to get into his car and drive off because a large group of men were approaching. Crazy stuff :eek:
 
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OldCoals said:
Yet it is all over the news........
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Just because they are trying to suppress the media, doesn't mean they are any good at it :p

News reporter on BBC this morning said she interviewed some people last night, when it was just a peaceful protest and they said they did expect violence, not that they endorsed it or thought it was right, but unfortunately unless there was some violence, no-one would have paid any attention to their protest at all.

A sad state of affairs all over. There obviously seems a problem in the American US policing system, and it's unfortunate it seems to take this level of response before people maybe start looking at the issue again.
 
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scorza said:
Anyone listen to Radio 4 this morning? They had a BBC reporter live on air from Ferguson. During the broadcast you could hear a loud gunshot, then a few seconds later the reporter said he was having to get into his car and drive off because a large group of men were approaching. Crazy stuff :eek:
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159 shots have been fired according to an d official in Fergusson.

Freakbro said:
Just because they are trying to suppress the media, doesn't mean they are any good at it :p

News reporter on BBC this morning said she interviewed some people last night, when it was just a peaceful protest and they said they did expect violence, not that they endorsed it or thought it was right, but unfortunately unless there was some violence, no-one would have paid any attention to their protest at all.

A sad state of affairs all over. There obviously seems a problem in the American US policing system, and it's unfortunate it seems to take this level of response before people maybe start looking at the issue again.
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What problem?
 
[TW]Fox;27259371 said:
How is stealing things from shops a sensible and useful response?
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Being serious, that is an interesting question, if you look at the riots in general the focus of anger very rarely seems to be directed at the people who are considered the protagonists.

Freakbro said:
Their trigger happy nature especially when dealing with certain ethnic demographics? ergo...black people.
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Why do people from that demographic seem to find themselves in those situations so frequently?
 
OldCoals said:
Why do people from that demographic seem to find themselves in those situations so frequently?
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A question that has been answered a million times, their prevelance to be in a more socially deprived underclass, with lower overall education, employment, wealth or opportunity.

Nothing to do with black people being inherently more criminal.
 
Freakbro said:
A question that has been answered a million times, their prevelance to be in a more socially deprived underclass, with lower overall education, employment, wealth or opportunity.

Nothing to do with black people being inherently more criminal.
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I never said it was.
 
OldCoals said:
I never said it was.
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I never said you did

OldCoals said:
Being serious, that is an interesting question, if you look at the riots in general the focus of anger very rarely seems to be directed at the people who are considered the protagonists.
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Well, applying sensible and rational thought to the actions of a riotous mob is slightly futile, since the psychology and reactions of a crowd are different to how the individuals within it would act normally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_psychology
 
"Around 150 gunshots were reported overnight, but police say they did not fire any shots. Around a dozen businesses were set alight, and 29 arrests were made, he says. At least two police cars were set on fire"

"Paul Lewis, The Guardian

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tweets: Just had close shave. Three of us journalists attacked by gang. Poor reporter we were with punched and had wallet stolen. Only just got away "

Definitely the way to react this...morons.
 
[TW]Fox;27259371 said:
How is stealing things from shops a sensible and useful response?
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Just as with the riots in London, it becomes cover or an excuse for general criminality. We saw organised looting, robbery and violence targeted at ordinary individuals. None of which has anything to do with police 'racism' or deprived communities.
 
[TW]Fox;27259371 said:
How is stealing things from shops a sensible and useful response?
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Thugs gonna thug...

It's a really stupid reaction.

"You shot our lovely baby boy who wouldn't hurt a fly, had a wonderful upbringing and was surrounded by loving and caring people... and to prove that, we're going to destroy a load of stuff and attack people"

And then they wonder why the police are so trigger happy when dealing with them. :rolleyes:
 
omnomnom said:
"Around 150 gunshots were reported overnight, but police say they did not fire any shots. Around a dozen businesses were set alight, and 29 arrests were made, he says. At least two police cars were set on fire"

"Paul Lewis, The Guardian

Posted at
tweets: Just had close shave. Three of us journalists attacked by gang. Poor reporter we were with punched and had wallet stolen. Only just got away "

Definitely the way to react this...morons.
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Accept that it seems to work!

For example, The LA Riots in the aftermath of the Rodney King incident resulted in the activists getting exactly what they wanted.

And so to Ferguson, I wonder how long it will be before the "Feds" step in and overturn the decision?
 
Fair result.

Take colour out of it...

Guy high on drugs. Guy robs store. Resists arrest. Goes for armed officers gun. Gun is discharged in struggle. Guy hits police officer. Guy runs. Guy gets drawn on. Guy charges at police officer. Police officer defends himself. Guy dies.

Now for those of you who want to put colour into it. Black guy wasn't doing the stereotype any favours. High on weed and robbing a store before the incident. Granted robbing a store doesn't warrant you being shot. Assualting an armed police officer and going for his weapon does though. If it was a black cop there wouldn't have been this reaction, more of a sense of maybe it was justified off the bat. If the culprit was white, more of a sense of justification. If it was the direct oposite, black cop white culprit, nothing would have come of it...

Keeping on the colour theme, grand jury would have bee ethnically diverse. They reached the conlcusion cop's actions were justified. Says a lot.

Maybe. JUST MAYBE. Michael Brown wasn't as sweet and innocent as everyone makes out?

It's still a shame and unfortunate. But he made those decisions.
 
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balky12 said:
Fair result.

Take colour out of it...

Guy high on drugs. Guy robs store. Resists arrest. Goes for armed officers gun. Gun is discharged in struggle. Guy hits police officer. Guy runs. Guy gets drawn on. Guy charges at police officer. Police officer defends himself. Guy dies.

Now for those of you who want to put colour into it. Black guy wasn't doing the stereotype any favours. High on weed and robbing a store before the incident. Granted robbing a store doesn't warrant you being shot. Assualting an armed police officer and going for his weapon does though.

Keeping on the colour theme, grand jury would have bee ethnically diverse. They reached the conlcusion cop's actions were justified. Says a lot.

Maybe. JUST MAYBE. Michael Brown wasn't as sweet and innocent as everyone makes out?

It's still a shame and unfortunate. But he made those decisions.
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Real shame that the majority dont have this thought process. Instead many prefer to concentrate on the skin colour of the "victim"... Its almost as if people feel that black people are the only ones getting killed out there!

Such a crazy mindset.
 
DAIR said:
Real shame that the majority dont have this thought process. Instead many prefer to concentrate on the skin colour of the "victim"... Its almost as if people feel that black people are the only ones getting killed out there!

Such a crazy mindset.
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I have been called racist on this forum too.. :rolleyes:
 
balky12 said:
Means you have a slightly different opinion than someone else over race / religion. :rolleyes:

OMGZ YOU IZ ZE RACIZTZZZ!! :D
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lol

The dictionary states that it is the "belief" that one race is more inferior or superior than another.
 
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