Madeleine McCann's parents

HEADRAT said:
So I know this story is a couple of weeks old but how can they do this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-leaving-daughter-in-car-for-ten-minutes.html

and not prosecute the McCann's?
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Alas I'm very cynical about the law system now in this country after having seen it in action personally. It's as if cogs start moving and a process with a life of its own takes place no matter how illogical it seems, and it appears that no common sense can be applied to stop it.

I suspect the father was honest to a fault which led to his own (potential) downfall. Had he refused to comment or even lied, he probably would have had a better outcome.
 
HEADRAT said:
Of course, does that mean if your child goes missing in another country you get away with it?
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Bar not longer have the light of your life, it would appear of you are Kate and Gerry McCann, yes you get away with child neglect. They will have to live with their own guilt for the rest of their lives. Their lives may return to a semblance of normality over time, but until their is regret, and acceptance of their guilt, then I doubt they'll move along much.
 
Well there you go then. Why do all these people bother with divorce. If your wife commits adultery then take a holiday to Saudi stone her to death and then come home. It's got to work out cheaper.
 
Dimple said:
Different countries, I fail to understand how you don't know that different countries have their own rules & laws.
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Their not Portuguese though are they, or are you saying if you're a UK parent and your leave you children unattended and out of site while you're having a night out there should be no recourse for those actions in the UK?
 
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HEADRAT said:
Their not Portuguese though are they, or are you saying if you're a UK parent and your leave you children unattended and out of site while you're having a night out there should be no recourse for those actions in the UK?
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If I got into a fight while in Portugal but the Police let me go then I can't see a reason why the Police should have me back in England.
Sometimes it is the opposite way round - in England if I was found to have a spliff the Police wouldn't do anything but if I was in Saudi I'd be locked away for a few years.

If you ask me do I think they should be held accountable for leaving them home alone then hell yeah but Portugal are weak.

I'd be interested to know if Portugal have changed their laws because of this incident?
 
Dimple said:
If I got into a fight while in Portugal but the Police let me go then I can't see a reason why the Police should have me back in England.
Sometimes it is the opposite way round - in England if I was found to have a spliff the Police wouldn't do anything but if I was in Saudi I'd be locked away for a few years.

If you ask me do I think they should be held accountable for leaving them home alone then hell yeah but Portugal are weak.

I'd be interested to know if Portugal have changed their laws because of this incident?
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It's a shame the UK doesn't hold the same feelings towards Madeline as they do her parents. What I mean by that is, we don't want to prosecute the parents for their negligence because it happened on foreign soil, yet that doesn't stop the UK tax payer getting their pants pulled down to help with the search.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for Madeline, but not her parents. Let's be realistic, it's very likely she's dead and where do you draw the line? Search for the next 10, 20, 30 years? That money could be spent on searching for missing children in this country.

Perhaps if her parents hadn't been leeching out of the search fund for their jollies, or mortgage payments, they could have spent that money on, oh I don't know, actually searching for her.
 
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Dimple said:
If I got into a fight while in Portugal but the Police let me go then I can't see a reason why the Police should have me back in England.
Sometimes it is the opposite way round - in England if I was found to have a spliff the Police wouldn't do anything but if I was in Saudi I'd be locked away for a few years.

If you ask me do I think they should be held accountable for leaving them home alone then hell yeah but Portugal are weak.

I'd be interested to know if Portugal have changed their laws because of this incident?
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The difference though is that the state is accountable and responsible for the care, safety and welfare of British minors.
 
Xordium said:
The difference though is that the state is accountable and responsible for the care, safety and welfare of British minors.
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I'm not disagreeing because I don't know but are you saying Britain has a responsibility for British kids care, safety & welfare in foreign countries?
 
Dimple said:
I'm not disagreeing because I don't know but are you saying Britain has a responsibility for British kids care, safety & welfare in foreign countries?
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If they are on vacation then yes if they are moving abroad 'on the run' or on a permanent basis the prior concerns should be passed over when relevant and international contact made to transfer the concerns. As we are talking about the former look at it logically - if one were to move a UK minor abroad to commit sex offences unless we uphold the states responsibility they could get away with it if the country in question did not have our standards. Note that if one takes a child out of the country for the purposes of arranged marriage under the age of consent or for example FGM then the state will instigate the appropriate child protection policies even though the actual abuse was committed on foreign soil. In those cases one can easily argue the abuse was pre-meditated on UK soil that is not so clear on this case. But one could easily argue that the two parents would have had ample opportunity and time to determine their level of involvement that would be required to keep their children safe and proceeded anyway. Therefore, one could easily argue the fore-knowledge for the potential for neglect was apparent.

You have to remember that irrespective of parental wishes that when it comes to safety especially life-threatening that the state legally has the ultimate responsibility and accountability.
 
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