Paris mayor wants diesels banned...I think I'm in love

I've said this in various places already, but I'm VERY surprised that diesel vehicle pollution hasn't been cracked down on yet. It was dealt with on petrol vehicles some 25 years ago but yet even brand new diesels seem to chuff out clouds of soot on acceleration.

A poorly maintained car without a DPF might do, most don't.
 
I've said this in various places already, but I'm VERY surprised that diesel vehicle pollution hasn't been cracked down on yet. It was dealt with on petrol vehicles some 25 years ago but yet even brand new diesels seem to chuff out clouds of soot on acceleration.

Mines 4 years old now and I can nail it and it doesnt chuck out any clouds of soot at all.:confused:
 
:eek: Suggesting there is room for improvement that doesn't involve punishing car drivers is heresy. Next you'll be suggesting that speed bumps, traffic islands next to bus stops and all the mostly empty buses driving around aren't actually helping to reduce congestion an pollution.

Just don't mention that all those electric vehicles are being recharged using coal-fired power stations or they'll burn you at the stake.
 
So are Diesels still worth buying? Surely it's not going to be long until something similar happens here!

Diesels are only worth buying if you do stupidly high mileage. There have been 'sanctions' already put on them and more plans to do so in London so yeah it wont be long till they're banned all together in some forms.
 
Diesels are only worth buying if you do stupidly high mileage. There have been 'sanctions' already put on them and more plans to do so in London so yeah it wont be long till they're banned all together in some forms.

I did wonder how long it would be! Seems my move to petrol will happen sooner rather than later.
 
All of those can be solved by accepting higher goods transportation costs.

Which customers won't accept because everybody wants the lowest price item on the shelf, just in time delivery schedules are to reduce cost by reducing storeroom / warehouse space and increasing retail space, effectively, the truck is the storeroom and this is why your average large supermarket has an almost constant stream of deliveries around the clock, if one delivery fails certain parts of the shops shelves suddenly appear empty.
 
off topic but I found out what happened in that catastrophic crash on the M25 yesterday.

It (primarily) involved one of our Dover vehicles (Langdons) (I trunked to our Dover depot last night)

A car was stationary on the hard shoulder and as our Dover vehicle went passed the car drove directly into the side of him (instead of getting up to speed on the hard shoulder) which caused the vehicle to lose control and veer into the central barrier and ricochet off it. Unfortunately he was being overtaken by another truck at that time and this caused that truck to go through the barrier.

That driver was Romanian and was killed. From what I heard his legs were in the cab but........

Also the "Foreign National" (no prizes for which nationality) car driver sustained injuries NOT caused by the collision (wink wink)

Both Primary drivers (Car & our truck driver) were arrested but our truck driver has been released without charge.

The car driver is in court today on vehicular manslaughter charges
 
I won't buy a diesel based solely on the ridiculous DPF issues, for most people a DPF is worse for the environment than not having one because they'll clog it so many times that it becomes a consumable part.

Bloody stupid owning a diesel in a busy city these days anyway, better off with a petrol engine in that sort of traffic and you'll never get it hot enough to regen a DPF.

Except of course for van and truck drivers who need the extra torque to shift loads.

LPG is where it's at if people want cheap motoring costs.
 
off topic but I found out what happened in that catastrophic crash on the M25 yesterday.

It (primarily) involved one of our Dover vehicles (Langdons) (I trunked to our Dover depot last night)

A car was stationary on the hard shoulder and as our Dover vehicle went passed the car drove directly into the side of him (instead of getting up to speed on the hard shoulder) which caused the vehicle to lose control and veer into the central barrier and ricochet off it. Unfortunately he was being overtaken by another truck at that time and this caused that truck to go through the barrier.

That driver was Romanian and was killed. From what I heard his legs were in the cab but........

Also the "Foreign National" (no prizes for which nationality) car driver sustained injuries NOT caused by the collision (wink wink)

Both Primary drivers (Car & our truck driver) were arrested but our truck driver has been released without charge.

The car driver is in court today on vehicular manslaughter charges

Grace of God & all that, I (and I'm sure you) see these antics day in & day out, thankfully, most times it's a damn close call.

Alas, this time not.

R.I.P. Drive.

And I'm pleased to hear of the non accident related injured idiot, I'm not surprised he "fell over" after causing such carnage. He's lucky he's alive to face court tbh.

The risk / reward ratio of trucking is absurd!
 
To the truckers... how likely is this?

http://imgur.com/gallery/B4z6mzI

Having done container work, very probable!

The crane driver would have to be blind and deaf (assuming the truck driver was honking frantically!) twist locks which are what holds containers to "skeleton" trailers are immensely strong, tbh, I'm more surprised the 5th wheel (that holds the tractor to the trailer) hasn't sheared off!
 
Just wondering how nervous motorists (there are a LOT of them) are going to join the dual carriageway if there is a wall of steel driving in it ?

The knock on effect on the feeder routes would be gridlock.

You didn't think that one out very well did you !

Restricting delivery access & times means the shops/manufacturing etc WILL run short.

It's called J.I.T (Just In Time) deliveries and has caught favour because of the savings over storage space.


All things can be sorted.

You make radar distance keeping equipment compulsory on all HGVs.

You 6 point any lorry not keeping 2 trailer lengths between it and the vehicle in front.
What ever it takes.

OR
Shops open earlier and take deliveries at night/in the morning.

OR you build more train freight hubs and vehicles run from there.

OR you invest in road widening across the whole of the UK.

What ever it takes.
 
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A poorly maintained car without a DPF might do, most don't.

My dad has a 07 Passat 2.0 tdi, I'm assuming no DPF. The first time you accelerate hard and there's a car behind with headlights you can see smoke behind.

It's serviced and maintained properly, whats wrong with it?

I just assumed that is what all diesels without dpfs do
 
My dad has a 07 Passat 2.0 tdi, I'm assuming no DPF. The first time you accelerate hard and there's a car behind with headlights you can see smoke behind.

It's serviced and maintained properly, whats wrong with it?

I just assumed that is what all diesels without dpfs do

If its a PD based engine which I think it probably is at that age - there's nothing wrong with it. They do smoke a bit on hard acceleration so don't worry about it. My friends Leon looks like an old freight train when he presses on!

I'd be more worried about the oil pump drive from the balancer shaft on that though!
 
[TW]Fox;27316159 said:
we'd have a vehicle fleet of quiet efficient petrol engines now not the bizarre situation where if you want to buy an E Class with a decent engine and you don't want an E63 AMG they will literally only offer you a diesel.

But... Theres a 184PS 1.8, a 211PS 2.0, and a 252PS 3.0 petrol? And they do now offer hybrid petrol engines alongside the diesels?


... :D
 
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But... Theres a 184PS 1.8, a 211PS 2.0, and a 252PS 3.0 petrol? And they do now offer hybrid petrol engines alongside the diesels?


... :D

I said a decent engine - there is no 252ps 3 litre petrol in the range.

The only petrol engines in the E Class range are a couple of 2 litre 4 pots and the E63 AMG. The hybrid is a diesel.

If you want a decent non AMG E Class with a sensible amount of performance you can only have a diesel.

Audi are even worse - there are no petrol engines offered at all in the A6. If you want a new A6, you can only have a diesel unless you can pony up £55,000 for an S6. Yea, great.

BMW are the only manufacturer left with good petrol options - the 535i and the 550i. Which nobody buys so unless you want to sift through haysticks looking for needles you can only have one of those if you are lucky or you buy new.
 
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