Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

wildman said:
which is how exactly ? Nuke the entire middle east ?, send the boys back in like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan....... what exactly is "dealing with appropriately"

It is obvious military solutions don't work, look at what we left behind in Iraq and Afghanistan. Also remember it was the west that were so eager to pile arms into the hands of Libyan and Syrian "freedom fighters" who opposed their regimes even though it was common knowledge that these brigands were terrorist organisations.
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war is coming,wild man,war is coming... :eek:
 
Will21st said:
The usual Islam-apologists will be along shortly to explain how this has nothing to do with Islam..

R.I.P

p.s. an unarmed police force like ours will be a god-send if terrorists ever try it on here.
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There are measures in place should an active shooter scenario occur in the UK and the response would be rapid.
 
Islam as a religion doesn't scare me.

The fact we keep having these style of attacks and the violence in which they are delivered bothers me.
 
Mentally afraid?

You can't be negative towards Islam in anyway without it being extremely frowned upon.

Anyone in the media has to tow the steady line of saying the correct things, otherwise most the public get outraged.

Its the whole way it is now it seems, everyone has to be outraged and it is always someone elses fault.

It's all our fault for invading Iraq probably. (ours, the west)
 
Hopefully the French kill the terrorists when they catch up with them. The French security services and police will be kicking in a few doors of suspected jihadists tomorrow morning I bet. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
There are measures in place should an active shooter scenario occur in the UK and the response would be rapid.
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Given what happened, and the fact the officer they shot was armed (which begs the question why wasnt he shooting, maybe got caught by surprise), I dont think our active shooter response would be able to stop something like this. They would be able to suppress a mumbai style attack but a hit and run? Hope they find these guys, and spread them all over the street even if thats exactly what they want.
 
Will21st said:
The usual Islam-apologists will be along shortly to explain how this has nothing to do with Islam..

R.I.P

p.s. an unarmed police force like ours will be a god-send if terrorists ever try it on here.
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Ultimately, it's nothing more to do with Islam as it could be to do with another religion. The problem is militant Islam and Islamic extremism. Such problems do not currently exist with other religions, but that's more to do with the surrounding conditions than the religion itself. They are man-made problems.

I imagine while such an attack is possible to perpetrate in London, we have better terror response units and it would be impossible to get away.
 
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platypus said:
Hard to see quite how the Islamic countries can become more secular, but stranger things have happened.
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I can't see it happening either but you never know. Look how quickly communism fell in Russia/Eastern Europe.
 
Uncle Petey said:
All you guys going on about 'the usual Islam apologists'... :rolleyes:

This particular case doesn't really leave any room for doubt, so stop with the generalisation.
None of the so called apologists here are under the illusion that there isn't a problem.
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There have been threads recent where some have been - claims being made that perpetrators were mentally ill and/or that attacks were nothing to do with Islam


I think it is pretty clear this one is so I'd hope we wouldn't have the apologist nonsense, I believe the penalty for insulting the prophet is death... Frankly it is such a messed up belief system even when following a moderate interpretation and is inevitably going to clash with western values such as freedom of speech.
 
elrasho said:
Because she told me it was a big case, I'd take her word over the media any day. Anyway have they found the guys who did this?
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One minute you are effectively making an appeal to maybe knowing a tad more because of what your mrs does, then when I challenge you on that you say it was in the media, and then say your mrs did tell you something and you'd believe her over the media. I am just pointing out that is rather inconsistent no more no less and I'll leave it at that.

No, I have seen nothing to suggest that they have captured these chaps. And these chaps seem to have carried this out far more professionally and organised than a lot of the attacks we have seen so the chances of catching them quickly are diminishing fast. I wonder whether these attackers have received training abroad and if so if this is going to be the pattern now with attacks being carried out by people who are more adept and the pretty nasty connotations that holds both for the resulting damage and the social cohesion.
 
PMKeates said:
Ultimately, it's nothing more to do with Islam as it could be to do with another religion. The problem is militant Islam and Islamic extremism. Such problems do not currently exist with other religions, but that's more to do with the surrounding conditions than the religion itself.
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Of the various religions in the world how many currently call for death for insulting a diety and/or blasphemy.

IIRC Christianity used to be a bit backwards in that regards but these days has progressed a bit.
 
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