Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

Why do we always put up with this? not only that, we actually encourage more Muslims to live here and in Europe.

I'm getting pretty damned sick of government policy.
 
Some of us are actually working today :roll eyes:
Oh dear,and some of us are actually not working today. How about that? :rolleyes:

Glad to see your on a propaganda roll with your agenda though ;)

at least my propaganda-roll and agenda doesn't include AK-47's,RPG's and 12 dead people. ;)

Just heard about this, sad news.
I'm reserving judgement as I would like to see how any Muslim can justify killing a person (err what did the policeman have to do with it for example?) over a stupid drawing.

How is killing people because of a stupid cartoon got anything to do with the religion Muhammad preached I will never understand... It was not his way. This is just sheer mentalism

and here we go,the apologies start.... Islam has nothing to do with.... Islam!! ;)
 
every day these days... So many terrorist attacks these days its really "unfair" on the peaceful ones.... COUGH.

Really? - maybe you should actually go and see what's going on with African Christians right now. Or how about jewish israeli's? or how about hindu indians? or maybe the burmah buddists - ALL THESE ATTACKS go unreported on a daily basis.

Just because our media has started to reserve the 'terrorism' title exclusively for muslim attacks doesn't mean that the rest of the world is all hunky-dorey.

Open your eyes and look beyond what is spoon fed to you.
 
Some of us are actually working today :rolleyes:
Glad to see your on a propaganda roll with your agenda though ;)


Just heard about this, sad news.

I'm reserving judgement as I would like to see how any Muslim can justify killing a person (err what did the policeman have to do with it for example?) over a stupid drawing.

How is killing people because of a stupid cartoon got anything to do with the religion Muhammad (pbuh) preached I will never understand... It was not his way.

This is just sheer insanity!

No true muslim huh?
 
Oh dear,and some of us are actually not working today. How about that? :rolleyes:

at least my propaganda-roll and agenda doesn't include AK-47's,RPG's and 12 dead people. ;)

and here we go,the apologies start.... Islam has nothing to do with.... Islam!! ;)

lol - all the correct statements to meet the 'Britain First' membership. Enjoy dude - I don't waste my time trying to teach the uneducated amongst us ;)
 
christianity used to be...but we moved on from that when we became a modern industrialised nation and people were able to exercise free will and modern thinking

science gave people pause for thought that their might not be 1 great being...once that barrier is broken down you can get on with doing your own thing

when you are trapped by a book of rules you are not able to be as tolerant or free thinking, as the book or the person that interprets the book rules your life


I slightly disagree, christianity didnt set the laws, didn't define what you should wear or what exactly you should do in your everyday life, at least not to the extent Islam does. Also what you describe as modern thinking is nothing more than ancient old thinking of egocentric, independent thinking and freedom applied from ancient Greece and revived during the renaissance
 
Really? - maybe you should actually go and see what's going on with African Christians right now. Or how about jewish israeli's? or how about hindu indians? or maybe the burmah buddists - ALL THESE ATTACKS go unreported on a daily basis.

Just because our media has started to reserve the 'terrorism' title exclusively for muslim attacks doesn't mean that the rest of the world is all hunky-dorey.

Open your eyes and look beyond what is spoon fed to you.

good Idea,let's have a look,shall we? ;)

Reported Christian 'martyr' deaths double in 2013: report

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/us-christianity-persecution-report-idUSBREA070PB20140108

Nine of the 10 countries listed as dangerous for Christians are Muslim-majority states,

In the list of killings, Syria was followed by Nigeria with 612 cases last year after 791 in 2012. Pakistan was third with 88, up from 15 in 2012. Egypt ranked fourth with 83 deaths after 19 the previous year.
 
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Really? - maybe you should actually go and see what's going on with African Christians right now. Or how about jewish israeli's? or how about hindu indians? or maybe the burmah buddists - ALL THESE ATTACKS go unreported on a daily basis.

Just because our media has started to reserve the 'terrorism' title exclusively for muslim attacks doesn't mean that the rest of the world is all hunky-dorey.

Open your eyes and look beyond what is spoon fed to you.

The difference being that these atrocities are happening on their home soil. It's not international in the way that Islamic terrorism seems to be.
 
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What is it about this particular religion that causes it to have so many more violent extremists than other religions? I suspect it's more of a cultural thing than a purely religious thing, it's just that the religion and culture are so strongly tied together.

Something needs to be done.
 
Where is the outcry from the Muslim community? there hasnt been any statement yet.

I have to say I agree.

We desperately need the Muslim community to shout "not in our/my name".

We need them to stand up against their leaders who promote and encourage this.

I love secular societies, I love the different multi culturalism that we can and have existed for centuries (look at the Middle East - it's been Christian/Muslim for many many many years in peace in the past). However this is now going way too far without their own community condeming such actions and being vocal about it. No wonder people have such negative views on Islam.

This makes me sad as I know all this will do is breed more negativity and animosity towards a group of people :(

How can the leadership not understand that satire is supposed to be close to the wind in terms of being slightly contentious. Yes it's not nice having something you believe in insulted, but if I took offence to everything that offended me, and was that way inclined, I'd be held guilty for genocide!

This is the problem, is that it has been skewed way out of proportion.
 
Really? - maybe you should actually go and see what's going on with African Christians right now. Or how about jewish israeli's? or how about hindu indians? or maybe the burmah buddists - ALL THESE ATTACKS go unreported on a daily basis.

Just because our media has started to reserve the 'terrorism' title exclusively for muslim attacks doesn't mean that the rest of the world is all hunky-dorey.

Open your eyes and look beyond what is spoon fed to you.


I'm afraid reality is at odds with your views -


I know the arguments against speaking of Islam as violent and reactionary. It has a following of 1.6 billion people. Places such as Indonesia and India have hundreds of millions of Muslims who don’t fit these caricatures. That’s why Maher and Harris are guilty of gross generalizations. But let’s be honest. Islam has a problem today. The places that have trouble accommodating themselves to the modern world are disproportionately Muslim.

In 2013, of the top 10 groups that perpetrated terrorist attacks, seven were Muslim. Of the top 10 countries where terrorist attacks took place, seven were Muslim-majority. The Pew Research Center rates countries on the level of restrictions that governments impose on the free exercise of religion. Of the 24 most restrictive countries, 19 are Muslim-majority. Of the 21 countries that have laws against apostasy, all have Muslim majorities.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...302a14-4fe6-11e4-aa5e-7153e466a02d_story.html
 
I have to say I agree.

We desperately need the Muslim community to shout "not in our/my name".

snip :(

just look at the recent arrival in this thread... instead of outright condemnation there's excuses and 'they're not 'real' muslims' and all that nonsense we've heard so many times.

Time for Muslims to step up...
 
amazing considering you do spend a lot of time defending the indefensible. Enjoy!

I didn't see him defending what's happened? He's just pointing out not all Muslims are like that. Vast majority in UK live out their lives without breaking any laws or subjecting others to their beliefs.

Yeah I agree, Islam does seem to have a lot of rules/laws that clash with western ideologies. Nothing new there. The bible would also massively clash with those same ideologies if lived to the letter.
These fanatics believe just that. Your 'us' vs 'them' stance does nothing except polarise people and just helps fan the flames of this bullsh**.

This sort of thing does require mass condemnation from the Muslim communities. Media also need to show solidarity. Killing over a cartoon is just full retard.
 
just look at the recent arrival in this thread... instead of outright condemnation there's excuses and 'they're not 'real' muslims' and all that nonsense we've heard so many times.

Time for Muslims to step up...

Surely the guy you're referring to did, in effect, say "not in our name"??

He called it "insanity" and pointed out how the real Islam and the way of the Prophet was not at all in line with the actions in France today.
 
just look at the recent arrival in this thread... instead of outright condemnation there's excuses and 'they're not 'real' muslims' and all that nonsense we've heard so many times.

Time for Muslims to step up...
That's not how it went.

This topic started neutrally, and the first post (#6) to fan the flames was the one below.

There is no point whatsoever in making this a thing about 'Muslims'. There are groups of people all over the world believing different things and having different behaviours, the problem is Islamic extremism and terrorism.
What is it bout Islam that makes otherwise normal people want to murder other people for publishing a drawing of a prophet?
 
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