What is the punishment in Islam for insulting the prophet? What is the punishment for apostacy?
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What is the punishment in Islam for insulting the prophet? What is the punishment for apostacy?
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....Ok.
Depends on who you ask.
And how many sects of Christianity are there that you know of? What are the punishments for various Christian considered sins that you also only have a vague idea about? And how many of those punishments are still taken seriously today? And by whom are they taken seriously?
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eh, what does that have to with what I was saying?
And to be honest I have no idea, guess different people and regions will have different laws.
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The point is the "Muslim Community" protests very visibly about other things. That they don't protest visibly about attacks like this gives out a message.
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One purpose of protests is to bring attention to things that often don't receive any attention at all. Some things people have no idea about, something things are not given much coverage on TV for a magnitude of reasons. Drones killings of innocents is one of these things, which unfortunately a vast amount of people fall into the government spin of "pin point accuracy" and "targeted killings", don't realise the vast destruction they have caused to ordinary civilians around the world.
There is no one protesting, there isn't much interest in the topic nor much coverage, hence why some Muslims in the west (and others) feel the need to protest, because no one else is.
On the other hand this attack in France where 12 people were killed has been on the news for over 24 hours constant, it is all the world is talking about. There are hundreds of thousands in France already protesting. It has got the attention, people are listening and voicing their concerns, so I guess there isnt that feeling of real urgency to go out and protest on a issue that is already at the forefront.
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You think it is a disputed issue? There is general consensus on it AFAIK... the differences are over other details... such as a Muslim respecting laws of the land he lives in etc.. and who should carry out the punishment. I'd be interssted in seeing clerics arguing that death isn't the punishment for insulting the prophet or for apostacy.
It is pretty fundamental to this, it is the root cause/justification of the attack.
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What does it have to do with what I was saying? I was talking about hypocrisy and double standards.
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The punishment in sharia is death for apostasy.
Yet we tolerate a belief system such as this.
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Depending on which side of the fence you are on you could equally make that accusation at western leaders.
Take the USA for example. A Christian country that thinks little of killing innocents in drone strikes, sheltering behind democracy. Does the person operating that drone have no comprehension on how precious life is? Is he equally a coward? Or is he doing as he is told and beyond blame?
I am not condoning what these two gunmen did, but to try and pretend that wrongs have not been comitted on both sides of this conflict is just fallacy.
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You cannot negotiate with these terrorists, so bombing them with drones is the best way to deal with them. That they choose to hide among women and children to use as human shields won't stop death from above.
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You were making a false comparison.
There is a direct link to Islam in this instance.
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That's not what you replied with though, you asked a question about apostasy and something else, to a different point.
Christianity has progressed from killing people for heresy
Because it's the VERY same tiny section of Muslims (the poppy burners, death to the west .etc) that you speak of.
Obviously this tiny percentage of fanatical Muslims aren't going to protest against something that they actually agree with (i.e the killing of the cartoonists )
The mistake that the ignorant people here are making is they seem to think this tiny section of Muslims is representative of ALL Muslims, which is ridiculous considering they make up <1%
You were talking about a murderer being white... irrelevant
Murderer being Muslim, killing people for insulting the prophet, punishment for insulting the prophet within Islam being death... Islam is the relevant issue there
And a ridiculous fallacy of logic in general. People's opinions(big and small) vary on incredibly wide scales even within small communities.
Because it's the VERY same tiny section of Muslims (the poppy burners, death to the west .etc) that you speak of.
Obviously this tiny percentage of fanatical Muslims aren't going to protest against something that they actually agree with (i.e the killing of the cartoonists )
The mistake that the ignorant people here are making is they seem to think this tiny section of Muslims is representative of ALL Muslims, which is ridiculous considering they make up <1%
Again, are you assuming that every Christian sect in the world is in agreement with this?
Crazy people who use religion to get what they want from others isn't uncommon in any religion. And it's the same here. Though it is a great excuse to bash Muslims as a whole, isn't it?