Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

[Amp34]

it is death though... true they've not been tried by an Islamic court etc...

But that is the root issue - just that idea that it is acceptable for someone to be killed for insulting a prophet. It is an abhorrent idea yet is a mainstream Islamic view regardless of the condemnations if vigilante types chosing to carry out an attack in this particular manner

Yet it's not a mainstream Islamic view in Europe however, heck it's not even a mainstream Islamic law in muslim dominated countries in Europe (such as Turkey).

As I already pointed out the "kill the gays"* law recently passed in Christian dominated Uganda. It's not like we can really brandish all Christians anti gay and pro killing of gay people because countries on another continent predominantly follow a book/religion to the letter.

*luckily it was watered down before going through legislature and it is now a long time in prison...

 

[Diddums]

When can we talk about ice cream?

 

[Above&Beyond]

The problem is with 1-2 civilians killed for every drone strike you're probably going to get another 1-2 relatives of those killed civillians picking up arms to fight the west and in retaliation for the drones that killed their family.

Then they will be the drones next target. If these terrorists think they are going to run and hide in remote hamlets or in the mountains and be untouchable then they are mistaken. The US is spending almost $40 billion on over 700 drones by 2020.

High value targets like al-qaeda leadership would always be targeted by fighter jets or special forces anyway. Drones are safer for our side and are getting more accurate and deadly.

 

[Danthus]

Can someone draw me a cartoon of Francois Hollande phoning Liam Neeson who is sharpening a pencil?

 

[Danthus]

Yet it's not a mainstream Islamic view in Europe however, heck it's not even a mainstream Islamic law in muslim dominated countries in Europe (such as Turkey).

As I already pointed out the "kill the gays"* law recently passed in Christian dominated Uganda. It's not like we can really brandish all Christians anti gay and pro killing of gay people because countries on another continent predominantly follow a book/religion to the letter.

*luckily it was watered down before going through legislature and it is now a long time in prison...

The CoE and Roman Catholics are anti gay.

 

[StriderX]

Can someone draw me a cartoon of Francois Hollande phoning Liam Neeson who is sharpening a pencil?

New plot for Taken 4, Pencil sharpener was kidnapped by muslamics with ray guns.

 

[Rroff]

Where are the fanatics of multiculturalism now? They seem awfully quiet. I thought diversity and equality was all that was needed for a successful society? No comment from the EU? no comment from Labour?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/7/french-islamist-mini-states-grow-into-problem-out-/

TBH I think youth in general, more so than in the past, feel disenchanted by the society they live in, so its doubly not surprising that radical Islam would have some attraction to youth who have access to it.

 

[dowie]

right is if go kill aload of people and claim I did it in the name of bubbism that then makes, buddists belive in murder. great way of thinking

Nope

Punishment for insulting the prophet in Islam is death.

There is a link there beyond someone simply claiming to represent the religion

 

[dowie]

Yet it's not a mainstream Islamic view in Europe however, heck it's not even a mainstream Islamic law in muslim dominated countries in Europe (such as Turkey).

It is a mainstream view/interpretation whether you like it or not. Islamic law calls for death for insulting the prophet... that isn't an extreme interpretation, it is pretty clear.

Turkey doesn't claim to implement Islamic law.

 

[ak22]

Nope

Punishment for insulting the prophet in Islam is death.

There is a link there beyond someone simply claiming to represent the religion

Show me evidence and explain your logic behind your claim, have you read the Quran or hadith yourself?

Their is no clear justification for it in the Qur'an

 

[Above&Beyond]

Waiting for another chance when the targets aren't surrounded by kids?

Yet I bet you are disgusted at whats happened in Paris, yet show a "**** happens" attitude when western countries kill inocents. It's either right or wrong.

These high value targets won't be walking about on their own in a field somewhere. This isn't the movies or an episode of Homeland. They know the drones are searching for them and when they find them they will look to kill them. Hiding among sympathetic civilians in tribal areas for protection from ground troops and the drones will be their tactics.

Hamas in Palestine do the same. Use schools, mosques, ambulances, hospitals to store and fire weapons and then hide behind women and kids.

 

[anything I don't mind]

All the religious books are evil and terrible basis for ethics.

http://www.evilbible.com <- christian bible is evil

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm <- quran is evil.

 

[balky12]

right is if go kill aload of people and claim I did it in the name of bubbism that then makes, buddists belive in murder. great way of thinking

Guess you mean buddhism? But no, a single act doesn't make that so.

Repeated acts do, coupled with very specific laws in Muslim lands that have the words 'blasphemy' 'death' 'penalty' in them.

 

[ak22]

Guess you mean buddhism? But no, a single act doesn't make that so.

Repeated acts do, coupled with very specific laws in Muslim lands that have the words 'blasphemy' 'death' 'penalty' in them.

So repeated acts of of people make calming to be part of group, sect, what ever changes what actual is written?

As for your Blasphemy / death penalty claim watch this

 

[dowie]

Show me evidence and explain your logic behind your claim, have you read the Quran or hadith yourself?

Their is no clear justification for it in the Qur'an

Are you referring to the attack or to the fact that death is the penalty under Islamic law for insulting the prophet?

 

[anything I don't mind]

So repeated acts of of people make calming to be part of group, sect, what ever changes what actual is written?

As for your Blasphemy / death penalty claim watch this

What you think or that guy thinks and how you interpret your magic book is not relevant. It does not matter if 90% of muslims are wonderful people that just love western culture and want nothing but peace. IT DOES NOT MATTER. It is not relevant.

What matters is that the religion is used as justification for violent attack.

Take the so called right wing terrorist Anders Behring Breivik. Now do you see people saying, well not all right wing people are terrorists. He just interprets right wing philosophy incorrectly. Is that an argument against the violence that he has committed? NOPE it is completely irrelevant that there are non violent people with the same philosophy in the context of such atrocious violence.

To solve such violence as Anders Behring Breivik, is the solution to just pretend like his ideology is a one off?

 

[ak22]

Are you referring to the attack or to the fact that death is the penalty under Islamic law for insulting the prophet?

I'm referring to your last post(below)

Nope

Punishment for insulting the prophet in Islam is death.

There is a link there beyond someone simply claiming to represent the religion

What you think or that guy and how you interpret your magic book is not relevant. It does not matter if 90% of muslims are wonderful people that just love western culture and want nothing but peace. IT DOES NOT MATTER.

What matters is that the religion is used as justification for violent attack.

So you going to the blame a religion ? because someone used it as justification for a violent attack even though that religion forbids its?





Yep I'm definitely in General Discussion thread.....

 

[wordy]

These high value targets won't be walking about on their own in a field somewhere. This isn't the movies or an episode of Homeland. They know the drones are searching for them and when they find them they will look to kill them. Hiding among sympathetic civilians in tribal areas for protection from ground troops and the drones will be their tactics.

Hamas in Palestine do the same. Use schools, mosques, ambulances, hospitals to store and fire weapons and then hide behind women and kids.

Which ever way you post it Mr This isn't Homeland, you're justifying innocent children being killed? Wow.

 

[lemonade]

His was a purely political message, after all his only targets were Norwegian socialists.

I doubt it had much to do with White supremacy, considering most of his targets skin colour.

His was for an idealogy, a racial supremacists one at that. He targeted kids, kids of people from a particular political spectrum he deemed were pushing multiculturism. It had everything to do with white supremacism, read his dossier and all his rhetoric, he did for the white european race and the christian based culture, he targeted those certain people because he saw them as enemies t the white race because they were facilitating immigration and multiculturism which he saw as a threat to europe.

 

[Amp34]

Then they will be the drones next target. If these terrorists think they are going to run and hide in remote hamlets or in the mountains and be untouchable then they are mistaken. The US is spending almost $40 billion on over 700 drones by 2020.

High value targets like al-qaeda leadership would always be targeted by fighter jets or special forces anyway. Drones are safer for our side and are getting more accurate and deadly.

And the war continues forever... Good going...

The CoE and Roman Catholics are anti gay.

Yet we hear no baying mobs talking about how Christians are the same and they should all be exterminated do we...?

Ah yes, what's that smell? Hypocrisy and racism/xenophobia.