Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

ak22 said:
Just lol Islam says murder is sin, just because bunch of nut jobs scream god is great and commits murder blame Islam.
Great way of thinking..... let's blame racisim on Christianty due to the kkk. Let's blame catholics for pedophilla dude to priest sexsual assault on boys. God save us.. no wonder why Europe is becoming more right wing
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titaniumx3 said:
Wait, so if I commit some heinous crime and then randomly shout something linking me to certain group of people, this would make that group of people irrevocably linked to the crime itself?

I do admire stupid people who sound intelligent.
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So given what they shouted and the fact that this was to avenge the prophet being insulted this has nothing to do with Islam?
 
titaniumx3 said:
If those who struggle to make the distinction between a terrorist nutcases and actual muslims, this guy explains it in much better depth than I ever can:

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I can make the distinction, the problem is you have Muslim terrorists who can't.

it maybe uncomfortable for some but they are Muslim.

These people who are not Muslims in your eyes would kill you because you are an infidel, why defend them?
 
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They lend support culturally to a murderous sect so screw the lot of them, If there is a hell i hope they go there for this. Do not try it on me because i have read a lot of Islamic material son.

And i know my history. If Murder is against Islam, The Prophet himself is dammed my Islam so why is he reverred? Also explain why they attack China,Europe,America,Africa,Austrailia? Muslims have attacked pretty much every non Muslim nation on earth.


And they have done so with barbaric methods. And it has been going on for 700 years. So jog on i actually know what i am talking about here when i say Islam is pure evil. It is totalarian as well and anyone lending support to totalarian regimes should be hanged or deported.
 
OldCoals said:
So given what they shouted and the fact that this was to avenge the prophet being insulted this has nothing to do with Islam?
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what some one says and what is, are two very diffrent things. I cam claim I have 15 inch penis hung like horse but is it fact?
 
Rofflay said:
They lend support culturally to a murderous sect so screw the lot of them, If there is a hell i hope they go there for this. Do not try it on me because i have read a lot of Islamic material son.

And i know my history. If Murder is against Islam, The Prophet himself is dammed my Islam so why is he reverred? Also explain why they attack China,Europe,America,Africa,Austrailia? Muslims have attacked pretty much every non Muslim nation on earth.


And they have done so with barbaric methods. And it has been going on for 700 years. So jog on i actually know what i am talking about here when i say Islam is pure evil. It is totalarian as well and anyone lending support to totalarian regimes should be hanged or deported.
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The country's who have suffed the most form these terrorists are muslim country's who are fighting these groups.
 
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Slime said:
Well you seem like a jolly nice chap
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I do not like myself for saying that, But im not prepared to let it get any further forward to the point where Islam become normal on Europe. I have seen through history the damage it can do.


Just look at the punishments they dish out in Islamic places. If you are a Muslim doing your little Muslim thing you are lending support to Islam and its ways. So you are promoting murder and extreme punishments. Granted there are peaceful people who probably do not want it to happen. But look at the source material which says it is ok. So these people are going against thier own book while promoting an Islam that never existed.


To me that is a person lost, And too afraid to say this is not for me i either need to find something different, Or i can communicate with God without going under the umbrella of Religion. All these Muslims have this choice yet most of them continue to do the Islamic thing.They made thier beds, Now let them sleep in it.



I beg to differ.
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Back to the snooker hall and spliffs son. I have poured in 100 hours easily reading and i know a lot more than you think. Which is why i am so disgusted with what i now know. Hell i bet i know a lot more than you about Islamic history.
 
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Raz said:
It's not as clear cut as you want it to be. There are definitely narrations that state those who curse/insult the Prophet should be executed, but this is in the confines of an Islamic state, where it would be part of the legal code and therefore punishable by the state, not random individuals. France is not a Muslim state, therefore these 'Muslims' had no right nor justification.
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B&W said:
You can believe in what ever you want, murdering someone and taking the law in to your hands is an entirely different issue.
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I'm aware of this - have mentioned it a few times in this thread... for example Saudi Arabia condemned the killings but would also happily have executed them had they published those cartoons in Saudi.

while I'm aware various clauses could apply my argument is that the idea/belief that death is an acceptable punishment under some circumstances for simply insulting the prophet that is still the root cause of this incident

dowie said:
What isn't widely accepted is taking the law into your own hands etc... but the underlying Islamic punishment, what should happen in theory in an Islamic state under Islamic law... (and does happen in practice in some) is death.

That isn't an extreme interpretation and that is the underlying issue here.
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dowie said:
it is death though... true they've not been tried by an Islamic court etc...

But that is the root issue - just that idea that it is acceptable for someone to be killed for insulting a prophet. It is an abhorrent idea yet is a mainstream Islamic view regardless of the condemnations if vigilante types chosing to carry out an attack in this particular manner
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Why does humanity still tread on egg shells around religion ? Its obviously not 'true' so why does it still maintain to be a hot subject? I think a time has to come where we all say, ok if you want to follow it, by all means do so, but don't ram it down everyone's throat, its appalling countries and human rights are still allowed to be dictated by religion simply because it is a religion.
 
ak22 said:
why cos he's crazy murder that's why, who has obviously not followed what Islam teaches and created his owm sick version.
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How do you know he was crazy? That sorting of thinking just makes it ever so slightly more palatable to accept what happened.

On the other hand, if the two of them are perfectly sane then what they did and why is even more disturbing.
 
Rofflay said:
Back to the snooker hall and spliffs son. I have poured in 100 hours easily reading and i know a lot more than you think. Which is why i am so disgusted with what i now know. Hell i bet i know a lot more than you about Islamic history.
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You're the one who cant spell totalitarian, not me.

And I know a lot more about your history of racist views on these forums.


Rofflay said:
Back to the snooker hall and spliffs son.
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Rofflay said:
Just look at the punishments they dish out in Islamic places.
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Whats with the double standards? I'm going to get punished if I do that and I'm not in an "Islamic place".

Or is the fact that smoking a spliff to myself is punishable under law a result of Islam too?
 
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