Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

Josh · 9 Jan 2015 at 07:38

Can I ask a question that may have already been asked and answered but what does the (saw) bit relate to when people write about the Prophet Mohammed?

I have never until recently seen (or just failed to realise) this. Would google but mobile internet is patchy at the moment.

PapaLazaru · 9 Jan 2015 at 07:48

Do any of the Muslim bashers on this have any Muslim friends? Or at least any in their social circles?

scorza · 9 Jan 2015 at 07:57

Absolutely sickening report on Radio 4 this morning from High Wycombe, where a Pakistani restaurant owner they interviewed was saying the Charlie Hebdo attack victims deserved their fate for insulting the prophet Mohammed. I hope the BBC report this guy to the authorities and he can be put on a watch/no-fly list. These sort of views are unacceptable imo. To be fair to the BBC, the reporter (didn't catch her name) at least gave him a hard time over his views. Worrying she also said that his views weren't uncommon in the area, but he was the only one she could get to put his views on record.

platypus · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:01

Tefal said:
err so how do you reconcile this little difference?

one says mutilate people (clearly if your hacking someones hands and feet off that is not self defense either) and the other says don't mutilate people.

which is it?

How do you reconcile the bible? Old testamant vs new testamant? Different ways of thinking from different times. I think it's been said many a time, Islam needs its reformation.

BuffetSlayer · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:12

JOSH86 said:
Can I ask a question that may have already been asked and answered but what does the (saw) bit relate to when people write about the Prophet Mohammed?

I have never until recently seen (or just failed to realise) this. Would google but mobile internet is patchy at the moment.

From my Google-Fu I believe it is an abbreviation of Sall Allāhu 'alay-hi wa-sallam

Loosely translated as "May Allah honour him and grant him peace".

Just a variation on PUB (peace be upon him) I think?

Im sure some of the Muslims in the thread will be along to explain though.

neocon · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:22

Did anyone hear Radio 4 this morning? They interviewed "people" in High Wycombe and quite a few thought that the magazine was a fault and that you can't make fun of the prophet. One said he loved the prophet more than his mum and dad...

Farage is correct

jmc007 · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:24

Muslims are allowed to lie to further Islam.
The Bible condems all liars.

scorza · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:25

neocon said:
Did anyone hear Radio 4 this morning? They interviewed "people" in High Wycombe and quite a few thought that the magazine was a fault and that you can't make fun of the prophet. One said he loved the prophet more than his mum and dad...

Farage is correct

I posted about it a few posts up

He loves his prophet more than his kids too. Farage is right, people like this guy will not be integrated into our society - they are a fifth column.

dirtychinchilla · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:25

jmc007 said:
Muslims are allowed to lie to further Islam.
The Bible condems all liars.

Christians just love the truth

jmc007 · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:26

Do "tolerant" muslims want Shariah law in europe?

jmc007 · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:27

dirtychinchilla said:
Christians just love the truth

There are a hell of a lot less real Christians that truly believe in the power of God. I would go as far as saying over 90% do not know the Lord personally.

dirtychinchilla · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:28

jmc007 said:
Do "tolerant" muslims want Shariah law in europe?

No.

jmc007 said:
There are a hell of a lot less real Christians that truly believe in the power of God.

You are an extremist though. You are the OCUK equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church.

neocon · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:29

scorza said:
I posted about it a few posts up He loves his prophet more than his kids too. Farage is right, people like this guy will not be integrated into our society - they are a fifth column.

You beat me to it. I couldn't believe I was hearing that this morning :confused:

You can't undo that amount of brainwashing

Terminal_Boy · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:32

PapaLazaru said:
Do any of the Muslim bashers on this have any Muslim friends? Or at least any in their social circles?

I consider myself more of a "nutters that are prepared to murder me for saying something that they don't like" basher, but I'll bite.

I have several Muslim co-workers (telecoms team) and have tried to get their opinion on the Paris shootings on several occasions over the last few days.

These are people I've worked closely with for a couple of years and join in all the non-drinking social events and banter in the office. I wouldn't call them friends anymore than I would any of my co-workers, but we get along fine on both personal and professional levels.

Without fail, each of them reacted like I'd just asked to borrow their wives for a bukkake marathon and suddenly had to be somewhere else to deal with an urgent work task.

So I'm none the wiser as to what your average British Muslim's views on this matter might be.

deuse · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:34

neocon said:
Did anyone hear Radio 4 this morning? They interviewed "people" in High Wycombe and quite a few thought that the magazine was a fault and that you can't make fun of the prophet. One said he loved the prophet more than his mum and dad...

Farage is correct

100,000s of muslims like him here. But sssshhhh they will call you names if you say anything

olivier renault · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:36

neocon said:
You beat me to it. I couldn't believe I was hearing that this morning

You can't undo that amount of brainwashing

It is sadly not uncommon. Sacred cows and all the rest.

Without fail, each of them reacted like I'd just asked to borrow their wives for a bukkake marathon and suddenly had to be somewhere else to deal with an urgent work task.

Religion poisons everything®.

John40 · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:39

Reports of hostages being taken and shots fired at a car being chased by police, locals told to stay indoors.

Amp34 · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:39

Terminal_Boy said:
I consider myself more of a "nutters that are prepared to murder me for saying something that they don't like" basher, but I'll bite.

I have several Muslim co-workers (telecoms team) and have tried to get their opinion on the Paris shootings on several occasions over the last few days.

These are people I've worked closely with for a couple of years and join in all the non-drinking social events and banter in the office. I wouldn't call them friends anymore than I would any of my co-workers, but we get along fine on both personal and professional levels.

Without fail, each of them reacted like I'd just asked to borrow their wives for a bukkake marathon and suddenly had to be somewhere else to deal with an urgent work task.

So I'm none the wiser as to what your average British Muslim's views on this matter might be.

Considering it sounds like you picked them out to discuss it because they were muslim it's not exactly unexpected they wouldn't want to discuss it, especially if they already believe you may have certain pre conceived ideas (if you agree with Scorza, dowse. Et Al). Is so exactly the same!

deuse · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:41

John40 said:
Reports of hostages being taken and shots fired at a car being chased by police, locals told to stay indoors.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30740115

kill the scum....slowly

olivier renault · 9 Jan 2015 at 08:41

Amp34 said:
Considering it sounds like you picked them out to discuss it because they were muslim it's not exactly unexpected they wouldn't want to discuss it, especially if they already believe you may have certain pre conceived ideas (if you agree with Scorza, dowse. Et Al). Is so exactly the same!

Yeah, don't ever try to correct their mistakes and misconceptions, by all means. Don't rock the boat, especially yours. Just... walk out. Whistling, preferably.