Chuffing do-gooders and busybodies

bitslice said:
Everyone is slightly hypocritical, like 'I care about dying people in other countries' when there is a thread about it, otherwise nobody actually does.
Unless 'caring' can be defined as a limited emotion lasting no longer than five minutes or until Top Gear comes on, whichever is the sooner.
Anyone who moans about China when they have sprayed herbicide in their own garden is a hypocrite, we just choose to ignore this.
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Indeed. I think what everyone is amused about though, is foxeye defending the moral position vehemently in one thread then months later creates another thread crying about "do-gooders and busybodies" Who have the same moral concerns as he himself was defending previously.

It's a patch of brambles at the end of the day. Chop away but not before getting permission from the landowner.

I have no problem with locals hunting across my land as long as they have requested permission and let me know when they plan to be there. :)
 
FoxEye said:
Can you comprehend the meaning of "not hurting anybody"? If so, that's your answer.
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So hurting people isn't fine via renting properties but hurting small birds that live in brambles is?.

Name five ways humans are better than a birds?. (/bow Carlin)

:D

I may be a "Chuffing do-gooder" myself, but at least I'm consistent!.
 
FoxEye said:
Annoy me greatly.

You know the situation. You ask a harmless question like:

"What is the best X for Y?"

And someone replies with "What do you need to do Y for? I hope you're not doing something I personally disapprove of. Now I'm going to outline all the reasons I think think you shouldn't be doing Y, and relate some experience of the last time I interfered in someone else's business."

Instead of just answering the damn question.

Just had a thread derailed on another forum by a couple guys who insist it's wrong and immoral for me to cut a path through brambles on an old disused tramway. Because bunny rabbits might live there. And little baby birds. And then talk about reporting me to the Police.

Grr, busybodies. Grinds my gears. And in this case, made me start a ****y thread :p

TL;DR - live and let live if it isn't hurting anyone. Baby rabbits don't count, there's tons of the little buggers.

P.S. sorry for starting another ****y thread (I'm not sorry).
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lol, OP sounds like he has had experience with www.stackoverflow.com

https://sergworks.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/why-stackoverflow-sucks/
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
Well this thread escalated quickly.....
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Ever since I posted some views in a couple threads about muslims, one or two people have taken a strong dislike to anything I post :p

It's always the same usernames posting in my threads... I'm sure it's not a coincidence.
 
FoxEye said:
Ever since I posted some views in a couple threads about muslims, one or two people have taken a strong dislike to anything I post :p

It's always the same usernames posting in my threads... I'm sure it's not a coincidence.
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I think it's more about you contradicting yourself and complaining about others who you class as "chuffing do-gooders and busybodies"

When you fit clearly in that bracket yourself.

What are your opinions on fox control and the badger cull?

I'll also leave this here so think carefully on your answer.

FoxEye said:
TL;DR - live and let live if it isn't hurting anyone. Baby rabbits don't count, there's tons of the little buggers.
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FoxEye said:
Ever since I posted some views in a couple threads about muslims, one or two people have taken a strong dislike to anything I post :p

It's always the same usernames posting in my threads... I'm sure it's not a coincidence.
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Well, as it goes if you continue to talk out of your arse, at some point you'll get ****.
 
wilber said:
I think it's more about you contradicting yourself and complaining about others who you class as "chuffing do-gooders and busybodies"

When you fit clearly in that bracket yourself.

What are your opinions on fox control and the badger cull?

I'll also leave this here so think carefully on your answer.
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Wait, this isn't how you play the game.

You can't ask me for my opinion on something then say I'm a busybody when I give you the answer you're expecting. To be a busybody I have to offer my opinion when it isn't asked for, or actively interfere in something that's none of my business. Having an opinion and offering it when asked isn't the same thing, is it?

Given that I've never tried to interfere in a hunt, and you asked me what my opinion on hunting is, I can answer that and not fall into any kind of trap :p

Unless hunting foxes with hounds is the same as cutting down brambles. In which case I'm only guilty of hypocrisy. We established this already :p
 
To do this you need to inform the relevant authorities, have a 5 man crew equipped with hard hats, safety goggles, protective gloves, high vis jackets and health and safety approved blunted machetes, paramedics and fire crew on stand by (and also the police if greenpeace get wind of this and start a protest) and an environmentally friendly way to dispose of said brambles.

OP, have you thought this through?

:p
 
slick rick said:
To do this you need to inform the relevant authorities, have a 5 man crew equipped with hard hats, safety goggles, protective gloves, high vis jackets and health and safety approved blunted machetes, paramedics and fire crew on stand by (and also the police if greenpeace get wind of this and start a protest) and an environmentally friendly way to dispose of said brambles.

OP, have you thought this through?

:p
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Should we go to DEFCON 4 first?

On a serious note, a lot of land owners will not give permission, because they don't want to be liable if an accident happens. So they're likely to say "no", even if they don't actually care, to cover their own behinds.

Sometimes it really is better not to ask.
 
FoxEye said:
Should we go to DEFCON 4 first?

On a serious note, a lot of land owners will not give permission, because they don't want to be liable if an accident happens. So they're likely to say "no", even if they don't actually care, to cover their own behinds.

Sometimes it really is better not to ask.
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It's not 'better not to ask' since asking is clearly the legal and moral thing to do and at least one landowner has stated in this thread that he doesn't mind giving people access to his land if they ask.

What you mean is that by not asking you don't get an answer you don't like, maintaining a defence of ignorance if you're caught. Until you ask and obtain permission you have no more right to be on the land when you haven't asked than you do if you accessed it following permission being denied.
 
FoxEye said:
Wait, this isn't how you play the game.
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I'm not playing any game. You seem to be dancing around the point.

FoxEye said:
You can't ask me for my opinion on something then say I'm a busybody
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I did'nt. I called you a busy body in relation to previous threads discussions. I then went and asked you a question in relating to a point you made in this thread.

FoxEye said:
when I give you the answer you're expecting.
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I'm still waiting for an answer.

FoxEye said:
To be a busybody I have to offer my opinion when it isn't asked for, or actively interfere in something that's none of my business. Having an opinion and offering it when asked isn't the same thing, is it?
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You used the term in relation to those 2 other people when you asked for advice did you not?

FoxEye said:
Given that I've never tried to interfere in a hunt, and you asked me what my opinion on hunting is, I can answer that and not fall into any kind of trap :p
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Who mentioned anything regarding hunts?

FoxEye said:
Unless hunting foxes with hounds is the same as cutting down brambles. In which case I'm only guilty of hypocrisy. We established this already :p
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Again something you've pulled out of thin air. Who mentioned the illegal practice of hunting with dogs?

Still no answer to my original question....

What is your opinion on fox control and the badger cull?
 
FoxEye said:
Sorry, meant to answer that and forgot.

Exploring. Looking for stuff ;) Mineshafts, adits. Holes in the ground. Clearing the brambles helps make it easier not to fall in one (they aren't all made safe, even today). I did say it was on old, abandoned waste ground. Well this land is often unusable for anything else. Nothing will grow on it, no houses can be built on it, it's often hemmed in by streams or roads or fields.

It is left overgrown although in some cases the council keep some of these sites maintained to some degree. Normally only if there's an engine house tho. Otherwise, where there are no old buildings to conserve, these areas are just abandoned and forgotten.

Technically they must belong to someone, and that someone is not me, for sure. But who is really going to be interested enough in such places to get upset about the loss of a few brambles?

Answer: there are some people who can get upset about anything ;)
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so the answer is petty vandalism.
 
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