Sky to Block your favourite sites by default...

Moses said:
Edit :: the stuff in the Sky blog post the article links to is pretty reasonable/shows it'll be (relatively) easy to use. People who complain are lol.
Click to expand...

Like Platypus said, it's more of a worry as to where censorship stops. Torrent sites got blocked, which fair enough- they're illegal. Now porn sites are getting stopped which doesn't worry me as I don't use them.

Perhaps the next wave of censored sites will seem reasonable, and the ones after that- what would it take for you to get concerned? Blocking certain news outlets maybe? Or gaming sites 'to protect the children from wasting time so they can get on with their schoolwork'?

It's a long, slippery slope that seems reasonable until we reach the bottom. It's no good ignoring it and mocking people for being concerned - we should all be concerned about censorship.
 
platypus said:
Except they're not, they're rightly concerned about where the censorship will stop.
Click to expand...

It's not really censorship when you can ask for it not to apply to you. This is a perfectly reasonable measure to reduce the amount of pornography accessible to people under the age of 18
 
The Geezer said:
Damn big brother decides what's good for us !!!!

Is there a difference between our Government and the likes of China or Saudi Arabia when it comes to Internet control / censorship ?
Click to expand...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_freedom

Not according to Reporters without Borders and several other organisations.

We, along with the U.S., Saudi and China are classified as enemies of the Internet.

The good thing about these blocks is they are easy to get past without having to ring up anyone. Just change your DNS to OpenDNS or googleDNS, it appears to be a DNS block rather than IP block... I'm guessing every 14 year old has known this since they started being introduced though...
 
J.T said:
No one "Stumbles" across P0rn sites. LOL



As a parent I can assure you I do "manage" my children, this isn't about parents not doing their jobs (though I do agree a lot do a poor job) this is about the government telling the people what they should and shouldn't be doing.
Click to expand...

Well as a parent and school class rep this issue has already presented itself to some parents in my 9 year old class.

Having now discussed this issue with parents there are quite a few parents out there that don't know how to stop their kids from accessing this content. The have googled it and are left with an array of expensive add ons for their PC none of which are really suitable.

Factor in on-line access to games on Xbox and PS4 + tablets and smart phones and you have quite a few on-line possibilities for access to unsuitable material. Not all parents are tech heads with OCUK forum membership.

For the moment I've restricted my son's access in Windows 8 to games I've approved. However I realise that I won't be able to prevent him playing online games for too long so I have to educate him.

On the Ipad it's easy to restrict apps, youtube and safari.

He can still see youtube on the PC but at least I can see what he's watching. I don't allow him to use headphones either so I can hear what's being played.

Children are curious so I'll have to explain pornography to him eventually as he will no doubt be curious about it once he gets to teenage years (as we all were).
 
jas72 said:
Well as a parent and school class rep this issue has already presented itself to some parents in my 9 year old class.

Having now discussed this issue with parents there are quite a few parents out there that don't know how to stop their kids from accessing this content. The have googled it and are left with an array of expensive add ons for their PC none of which are really suitable.

Factor in on-line access to games on Xbox and PS4 + tablets and smart phones and you have quite a few on-line possibilities for access to unsuitable material. Not all parents are tech heads with OCUK forum membership.

For the moment I've restricted my son's access in Windows 8 to games I've approved. However I realise that I won't be able to prevent him playing online games for too long so I have to educate him.

On the Ipad it's easy to restrict apps, youtube and safari.

He can still see youtube on the PC but at least I can see what he's watching. I don't allow him to use headphones either so I can hear what's being played.

Children are curious so I'll have to explain pornography to him eventually as he will no doubt be curious about it once he gets to teenage years (as we all were).
Click to expand...

Or he'll do what every kid of recent generations has done, go round his mates and look at some porn tape that someone else found. (Now just replaced with a different media)
 
Amp34 said:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_freedom

Not according to Reporters without Borders and several other organisations.

We, along with the U.S., Saudi and China are classified as enemies of the Internet.

The good thing about these blocks is they are easy to get past without having to ring up anyone. Just change your DNS to OpenDNS or googleDNS, it appears to be a DNS block rather than IP block... I'm guessing every 14 year old has known this since they started being introduced though...
Click to expand...

Meanwhile back in the real world, a more in-depth and less hysterical report rates freedom on the internet in the UK as Green/Free.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-net/2014/united-kingdom
 
Macro said:
If sky broadband users object to this censorship it's quite simple - you need to cancel and move your broadband to another supplier and make sure Sky know why you've moved your custom. It's a pain but it's the only thing they are likely to react to.
Click to expand...

Why would you go our of your way to do that and end up paying more in the long run when you can just ring up and tell them to stop blocking your boobs.
 
scorza said:
One which doesn't simply assign each country into a binary state, one of which with the hyperbolic label "Enemy of the internet".
Click to expand...

Considering the recent "revelations" about GCHQ regularly monitoring journalist and politicians emails you can see why reporters without borders would see them as a threat...

While we may nnot be as bad as many of the others on that list we certainly aren't freedom and light relative to a significant proportion of the rest of the world, including most western nations.
 
We shouldn't be treated like capable grown ups and we're not competent to make our own choices. We can't set out own limits for our own children and we need our bottoms wiped.

Even if we were culpable, we couldn't handle the responsibility...

Obviously. :rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
Amp34 said:
Considering the recent "revelations" about GCHQ regularly monitoring journalist and politicians emails you can see why reporters without borders would see them as a threat...

While we may nnot be as bad as many of the others on that list we certainly aren't freedom and light relative to a significant proportion of the rest of the world, including most western nations.
Click to expand...

Correct, and the question I have is; is unfettered access to everything really a good thing? e.g. on that Freedom House report one of our points (more points = less free) is that there is a block implemented at an ISP level on accessing child pornography sites. It seems to me that aiming for a score of zero on that particular report isn't a good thing. On the other hand it should be noted that most of our points came from things like the epsilon semi-morons trolling people on facebook which is a user action violation. That's something that needs to be tackled.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom