General Election - Conservative + UKIP coalition?
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probably not...
To be fair, they didn't crash the economy, but they did ensure that we were in a terrible position when it came by running a deficit spending policy in the boom.
That's the thing isn't it, the right wing press have engaged on a jihad to undermine Ed by publishing pictures of him looking stupid. Let's be honest if our facial expressions were under constant scrutiny there'd be a fair few of us looking daft. For me it's telling that they can't attack Ed over his policies like the mansion tax, because they're actually quite popular, so they go for his style instead.
Which literally no-one thought was a bad idea before the global economic crisis. In fact, I imagine that when public borrowing is back to normal levels I expect a small deficit will be run again, governments running a surplus as standard is just a crazy idea when you look at the facts and not hysterical right-wing propaganda.
Deficit spending during the boom was followed by Tory austerity during the slump, another 'good' idea. The differences between the two parties aren't huge, I wouldn't mind any of them forming the govt. as long as the extremists (such as UKIP) are left on the outside.
J. M. Keynes had a few thoughts on the subject, some time ago..
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I'd guess 1/3rd of all UK voting, National, European, Local is done on "I like that leader" idiotic judgements and nothing to do with policy.
One follows the other though. Responsible fiscal behaviour during the boom would have allowed for deficit spending during the slump. Instead the national debt was increased by 50% during a boom....
Popular among the economically illiterate and the jealous maybe. For anyone who actually values freedom or understands economics, they are horrific populist bilge.
When I studied Keynsian economics I don't recall the bit that said "run a surplus" when the economy is growing, he did say "control inflation" though, which the last Labour government did.
What's wrong with the mansion tax then?
Keep repeating that to yourself if that makes you feel any better, you'll be wrong but whatever
The mansion tax has no respect of ability to pay, is poorly targeted and subject to easy manipulation through asset value fluctuations (much as, prior to the stamp duty change you did not see houses advertised for £251,000).
In addition to that, the idea that taxing assets bought for by money already taxed, and inconsistently should be abhorrent to anyone who values equal treatment under the law.
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Starting to think what we have now is best option as any leftie only or righty only coalition is just going to drag either main party away from the center which is bad mmkay
That's not idiocy, that's the only way democracies can work on a large scale. It's not realistic to expect tens of millions of people to get their facts right, to understand the short and long term effects of different policies and act accordingly. If a rational approach can't work, then the only option is an emotional one, which is why leaders are chosen based on charisma, likeability etc. The trick is these leaders have an apparatus behind them and that is where decisions actually come from. Fringe parties have no such thing, their decision making process is unpredictable and it can lead to unforseen consequences, which is why it's generally a very bad idea to grant them power.
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So basically you're just against the idea of a wealth taxes and progressive taxes in general. Thought so.
I am against discrimination based on arbitrary factors such as race, religion, property ownership, gender, hair colour and so on.
I know you don't agree with the idea of equality under the law, so we can just accept that you advocate discrimination and leave it there.
It's been proved time and time again that crunching down on the rich reduces the tax intake. And in turn is counter productive and not progressive. It's a delusion that many of those on the left suffer from perpetuated by the work-shy dossers that think they'll suddenly become rich if they take money away from the 1%
What a bunch of deluded idiots
And to think they all campaigned against PR, the one system that would see ukip gain massively. Lol so glad we didn't get it now, FPTP is going to crucify the Tories with their vote splitting with ukip, resulting in all of three ukip MPs and a lab coalition or minority. The Tories will stab Cameron in the back, leading to a boris v may leadership race.
All labour needed to do to win this election outright was choose the other Miliband, but it's too late now.
As long as ukip get **** all I'm happy, the other three are all dirty Tories
All labour needed to do to win this election outright was choose the other Miliband, but it's too late now.
As long as ukip get **** all I'm happy, the other three are all dirty Tories
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I'd rather we could get rich people to pay the tax they owe rather than raising the cost