On the last point right?
ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion
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On the last point right?
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In response to the negative replies to my post, you people have already made up your minds, and no amount of moderate Islam is going to change that.
How do you best expand a sphere of influence?
You get airtime, on Sky news, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, Fox news, etc, etc, etc.
Take that away - Sphere of influence drastically reduced.
I'd rather just build a massive 100ft wall around the middle-east from Isreal to India and just let them carry on killing each other. then when they're done destroying themselves after 100 years we just roll in.
*not serious
Saying it in capitals won't make it less wrong.
Guns, bombs, terrorising the local population, burning people alive maybe? Tell me how not reporting it will stop these people from doing what they do? They will extend their reach, media or not.
By not reporting everything about them, by not putting them on the front of the TV screen every 5 minutes, you'd definitely impact their recruitment - all those people who went over to fight with them, "JIHAD JOHN" and all the others for example, almost certainly learnt about them through the media, or media related channels.
And the media certainly should not be broadcasting anything to do with hostage scenarios, because it makes taking hostages highly profitable, airtime and youtube videos to an IS militant, is worth more than mayfair real estate
whilst your proposals make sense I don't really think that it would change anything, and that's not considering that the world shouldn't be left in the dark about what's going on.
Also, if you don't report what goes on there, they may make sure that we get to know about them by causing more havoc closer to home, but that's just pure speculation.
Expanding your logic it would also make sense to not report on terror incidents such as Paris or London since they crave that notoriety as well.
Troops on the ground, work with Syria and any other country who is fighting them.
No-one is holding all Muslims do be accountable or responsible for the actual acts. They are expecting all Muslims to be responsible for the message of their faith. Surely Muslims care about their faith and their god?
It is not prejudicial to say you don't like certain aspects of a groups behaviour or that you would prefer that behaviour to stop. Prejudice occurs when you apply it to individuals.
I was talking about the actual act - care to link me one post on these forums which attributes the acts to all Muslims. If you can't then you are the one full of BS aren't you.
Oh, well they obviously don't give that much of a stuff about their religion then or their god do they. Guess we can remove all the special privileges afforded them can't we.
I am not against people worshipping what every stupid rubbish they want to believe. I am against people using that as a justification to get special privilege and to manipulate society towards their ideals. It's about stopping religions influence over everyone irrespective of belief not stopping their belief. Another difference you can't seem to spot.
you , like him are criticising other peoples opinions whilst giving none of your own.
Yes and No.
Society in a Muslim country/Islamic Caliphate should according to Islamic laws and rulings.
In a non-Muslim land, that's not applicable.
2 less terrorists
It would make total sense, and I also think it would actually have prevented some attacks,
for example, 12 hours after the massacre at the charlie hebdo offices, there was another massacre at the Jewish supermarket...........
I would suggest the following as a minimum;
1> Do not show any videos, audio or images of the terrorists whatsoever
2> Do not name any of them
3> Do not broadcast any information relating to their demands
4> Total media blackout on any scenario involving hostages
You can disagree all you want, but without rulings from Islamic scholars that's just your opinion, based on the actions of Muslims rather than the teachings of Islam.
out of sight and out of mind does not make the threat any less real. Your idea will leave many people unaware of a very real danger.
Basically, you want to deny the problem.