> Annnd this is where I come in on this thread. Up until now, this thread was boring as hell.I respect my mum. But I'm pretty sure in a fight I'd win
You sir, I doff my cap to thee
'Rich Privilege'
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You sir, I doff my cap to thee
I know, but sometimes the truth hurts.
Poverty can indeed be a choice, how is that not hard to understand? People don't intentionally go 'you know what, I choose to live in poverty'. People choose to take drugs, people choose to not be sensible with money. People choose not to educate themselves. The result is then poverty. You are aware that I am talking about people strictly in the UK? Places like Africa is a completely different story and you know it. In the UK all the tools and opportunities are there for you. I know people who have come from what is coined 'relative poverty' and are now successful (home owner, decent job, family, etc.)
I know people who have had abusive upringings. Are now doing well. The list goes on.
I also know people who have 'privileged' upbringings who aren't doing so well for themselves.
That's the second comment i have picked up on the so called not trying at school, have you ever wondered some people can not progress with education through one way or another does not mean there was no effort put in, again far to many on these forums tarnish people who didn't do well at school are classed as a waste of space, do you know how pathetic you all sound, i would love to meet people like you in real life and show you how you give respect.
My sister had severe learning difficulties whilst growing up (she probably still has severe learning difficuties technically, but if you met her you met her now you would never know). She was constantly bullied because of this. She studied hard, and with help from the family got through school, went to uni. Is now earning a decent wage in London as a CAT modeller for a decent insurance company. All hard graft. So yes, I do know that some people are hamstrung coming into life. It's how you play those cards that determines the outcome. She could have chose to roll over and not bother because 'she is disabled so whats the point, she needs help, the state will look after her', but she didn't.
I also know people who perhaps haven't had the fortune of loving parents like me and my sister did, who would dedicate time to their needs (it didn't take money, only time and effort) and they are doing well for themselves. Granted I know one who isn't. But their attitude is one of I am hamstrung, I am disabled, the world owes me.
Life is what you make it...
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Lumping me in with that?
Because the last time I aired similar opinions to those I have aired in this thread I was on a rostrum in front of 5000 people
Lumping me in with that?
Because the last time I aired similar opinions to those I have aired in this thread I was on a rostrum in front of 5000 people
He said 99%. Its not ALL about you
Huh? That's irrelevant to this thread,
Academia does have an impact on wealth however. It's not a guarantee (what is in life?) but its not a spurious correlation either
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I understand what you're saying. If it wasn't me using equity like that it would just be someone else. We see this as a great opportunity though, and hopefully we can buy back the government's share, because we'd much rather have full ownership. In the end, they will profit from this, and so will we.
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As a society we seem to calculate intelligence on academia.
Emotional intelligence is really most important thing if you think about it. Or both should be cultivated but yes society fixates on rote learning and exams.
It was relevant to the post above mine that I thought I had quoted
But out of context it does look a little tourettes'ish
As a society we seem to calculate intelligence on academia.
I agree that this is perhaps wrong later in life. But there is no escaping that you gain most of your intelligence from school / college / uni when it comes to the pivitol time of getting your first job/ starting your career.
Absolutely, But what seems to happen is. If your academic then you'll get a good job making someone else rich.
If your not academic but still intelligent then you'll work to make yourself rich.
begs the question, Who's the smartest
Poverty is not a choice (sane people don't actually choose to have insufficient food/clothes/shelter) and, amusingly, your argument supports this view as you're actually saying that poor choices lead to poverty. The interesting part is that you suggest that the majority of poor people or a large percentage are poor because of these choices. By that reasoning, if these people stopped being so lazy, stopped taking drugs, and started making right choices, they would not be poor anymore. Correct?
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He said 99%. Its not ALL about you
Haha - point taken!
I don't think anyone has ever said that to me on this forum
Absolutely, But what seems to happen is. If your academic then you'll get a good job making someone else rich.
If your not academic but still intelligent then you'll work to make yourself rich.
begs the question, Who's the smartest
That depends whether you measure success by wealth and material possesions.
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So you are saying that no one who lives in poverty, or relative poverty, does so because of poor life choices? It was all out of their control? Like I said, people don't choose poverty in such a straight question. They make life choices that can result in poverty. I agree this isn't the case for everyone, but I am willing to bet it is for the majority.
If you go to school (for free, and which every can do) study well. Go to college (which everyone can do for free, again), study well. What is honestly stoping you from getting a job, if you apply yourself in the job searching market?
Or your other argument, that people who who have made bad choices in life, and are now in poverty, are not of a sane mind? So are mentally ill?
You sir are delirious, and part of the problem.
'People are poor because of random luck. People are rich because of random luck.'
Fantasy.
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He who dies with the most toys wins
I want to work hard right up to the point when I can go stuff it I'll retire early.
Knowing what i'm like I will probably keep trying to amass a fortune and die at the office.
I think the reason I'm like that is I have friends and family members who. Will earn enough to live off by wednesday to will have the rest of the week off.
I'm more driven than that. My dad has worked everyday of his life since he was 13 and he still needs to work now at 68. He's too proud to take the help from me so I gave him a job and I overpay him, Just enough so he doesn't notice.
I don't want to be in his shoes at his age.
If I don't make it that far then at least my kids will have a leg up for the next generation
My Wife's Grandparent's sold the house to my Wife's father for 2/3 its at the time market value. He then gifted the house to my Wife.
We are lucky enough not to have to get a mortgage. I would hate having that looming over me
My Wife's Grandparent's sold the house to my Wife's father for 2/3 its at the time market value. He then gifted the house to my Wife.
We are lucky enough not to have to get a mortgage. I would hate having that looming over me
should have kept that to yourself dude. Many people on here will be after your head saying you don't deserve it and you are making the poor poorer, etc.
Congrats on the house dude, enjoy your life and hard earned money to its fullest.
My Wife's Grandparent's sold the house to my Wife's father for 2/3 its at the time market value. He then gifted the house to my Wife.
We are lucky enough not to have to get a mortgage. I would hate having that looming over me
Yes its not nice at all having a big mortgage hanging over you, I wont be able to finish paying for mine until I am at least 65.
But guess what, I in no way hold your good fortune against you or begrudge you in any way shape or form or feel cheated that your luck was better than mine and I don't feel you should pay anymore into society than you already are... Unlike a lot of people will on here it would seem...
I say, good for you!
Yes its not nice at all having a big mortgage hanging over you, I wont be able to finish paying for mine until I am at least 65.
But guess what, I in no way hold your good fortune against you or begrudge you in any way shape or form or feel cheated that your luck was better than mine and I don't feel you should pay anymore into society than you already are... Unlike a lot of people will on here it would seem...
I say, good for you!
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