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What is Best CPU , AMD FX-8??? versus INTEL i5 i7 range. For Gaming. Comparison's

humbug said:
No its not correct, he said AMD's Motherboards lack feature.

The age of the socket has little to do with it, and you know that.

What features do they lack?
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He said they're old, you said they're not old.

They are old.

As far as features go, they lack PCI-E (FM2+ doesn't, it's a modern platform, but OP's not looking at FM2+) they don't have the M2 of the latest Intel stuff. Apart from that, you don't lose much, just differences in the features.
It's still an old platform.
 
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humbug said:
Did you look at AMD's Motherboards before you made that statement?

They are not lacking in features nor are they as old as you make out.

People wonder why Intel are expensive and getting more expensive.
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No M.2
No Sata Express
Low amount of USB3 ports
Half the boards only have PCI-E v2
Limited amount of Sata6 ports compared to z97/x99
Dead end platform - no new CPU's coming
Runs far hotter than Intel alternatives - not nice in summer
Consumes more electricty than Intel alternatives

Literally no plus points - apart from being dirt cheap, to reflect the product on offer.
 
Martini1991 said:
He said they're old, you said they're not old.

They are old.

As far as features go, they lack PCI-E (FM2+ doesn't, it's a modern platform, but OP's not looking at FM2+) they don't have the M2 of the latest Intel stuff. Apart from that, you don't lose much, just differences in the features.
It's still an old platform.
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A lot of AMD's motherboard are a year old, complete with PCE-3, not to mention SATA 3, UEFI that they have had for a long time.....

The only thing they don't have is DDR4, but then nor do Intel Motherboards under silly money.
 
As far as USB/SATA ports go Dave, it depends on board really, I wouldn't put that as a plus/negative.

AMD were the first as far as I'm aware to put in native SATA 3 support into a board.

And as far as PCI-E 3.0 goes, there's like one board which has it, and it's not native.
 
humbug said:
A lot of AMD's motherboard are a year old, complete with PCE-3, not to mention SATA 3, UEFI that they have had for a long time.....
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You're not talking about AM3+ are you? The only AMD boards that have PCI-E 3.0 (native) are FM2+ boards as far as I'm aware. There's many 1 or 2 AM3+ boards which have a third party chip for PCI-E 3.0.

Although I'm lol'ing at SATA 3 as a plus point.
 
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Martini1991 said:
List me 10 AMD boards on OCUK that are AM3+ which have PCI-E 3.0.

When you don't, can't we just laugh about you being out of your depth again?
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There is that attacking again...

10? Really, is there even that many different motherboard vendors?

Because OcUK don't stock them they don't exists?
 
Martini1991 said:
What's that got to do with you making up PCI-E 3.0 support on AM3+?
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Well i didn't make it up did i, you linked it yourself, what i didn't know was that particular Board had gone EOL.

You asked me to list 10 Motherboard's with PCIe3, a very difficult if not impossible task, that is obvious to someone who knows even the slightest little thing about hardware.

But lets see.

List 10 Motherboard Vendors.
 
You've just been telling me how there's a lot new AM3+ boards that are a year old and they have support for PCI-E 3.0. There's been one board, and it got EOL'ed, replaced by a PCI-E 2.0 variant.

See here ;

humbug said:
A lot of AMD's motherboard are a year old, complete with PCE-3, not to mention SATA 3, UEFI that they have had for a long time.....

The only thing they don't have is DDR4, but then nor do Intel Motherboards under silly money.
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So, yes, you did make up the support. It's not there.

I told you to list 10 of these boards.

I get it, I've shown you up again, and now you're grasping for straws. It's obvious who knows hardware more out of me and you. And it's certainly not you.

Me naming motherboard vendors doesn't change anything. AM3+ is old.
 
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Martini1991 said:
You've just been telling me how there's new AM3+ boards that are a year old and they have support for PCI-E 3.0

I told you to list 10 of these boards.

I get it, I've shown you up again, and now you're grasping for straws.

Me naming motherboard vendors doesn't change anything. AM3+ is old.
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Is it just that you have fatal reaction to losing an argument or is there another reason every-other post of yours is proclaiming yourself as victorious where no fight existed? at least not before you enter with insults out of the blue, with anything and anyone you encounter around here getting the thick end of your frustrations.

The world is not against you, not everyone is out to get you. the sooner you learn that the more civilised this forum will become.
 
You must have the same reaction to losing an argument, because you're always trying to move the goal posts and spin it.

In reality, I get tired of people like you posting things which factually are inaccurate which may persuade someone with their money.
You're AMD biased, I get that, but that's no excuse for making stuff up.
 
Martini1991 said:
You must have the same reaction to losing an argument, because you're always trying to move the goal posts and spin it.
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Yeah, The fact that you had that immediate assumption was obvious, at least it explains how you behave around here.

You know what they say about assumptions.

As i said, the world is not out to get you.
 
Oh you guys :rolleyes: ;)

A big detour just to discuss the feature set of 990fx chipset/mobos :D

There are a handful of missing features, which might be important to a relatively small number of people (small form factor aside - probably a bigger market there). If they're important to you, as a buyer, then Intel is the answer**.

The FX CPUs are a good alternative at their price points, and offer perfectly good performance against equivalently priced Intels. But if you have a £1k budget (or probably anything above about £800) for a gaming PC, then generally only an AMD enthusiast would be best advised to go for an AMD CPU.

** PCIe3.0 shouldn't be important to many, though, since it offers no practical advantage over PCIe2.0 at present.
 
I had this argument with ALXAndy in another thread lol. The FX8 series are in performance terms just under i5 and i7 unless they are overclocked to 9590 levels then you see them competing however when you overclock the i5 or i7 counterparts just as much they once again start leaving the FX8 series.

Also when it comes to dual GPU setups the i7 is the better choice when overclocked no doubt! Usually better FPS and better minimums which makes for smoother gameplay. This is why you see high end systems with Intel CPUs and not AMD. So FACT intel are better.

However the main point is missed here, based on budget it then becomes a whole different story as the FX8 series are not bad CPU's for the price just not as good as intel but they are at a premium compared to AMDs

If you have a small budget then sometimes a AMD CPU and GPU can be the better option. If you opt for the Intel you may well be left with less money/budget for the GPU and in gaming will have the end result with less FPS ingame.

Though if you got a intel CPU later down the line you could always upgrade the GPU as intel CPUs hold their own for years! Lots of variables to consider when choosing, and a budget is one of the main ones.
 
Intel and AMD are not stupid. They will price similarly-performing CPUs at a similar price to the competition, it's just that AMD can't compete at the high-end any more so they simply have no offerings up there and Intel can therefore charge what they like.

There are other subtle differences of course, with AMD's superior IGPs and modular approach and Intel's superior x88-64 core performance. Beyond that it's all about hitting a price/performance ratio sweet spot. In the past that was quite easy but now it's a bit more complicated because of things like GPU hardware acceleration and multithreading.
 
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