Some interesting reading here;
https://despisethelies.wordpress.co...round-lies-to-its-customers-staff-and-public/
https://despisethelies.wordpress.co...round-lies-to-its-customers-staff-and-public/
RMT to ballot for strike action.
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Looks like a highly trustworthy and clearly unbiased source, far more impartial than any mainstream news outlet. We should immediately set out to right this clear travesty of justice.
For the avoidance of doubt, yes, I am being sarcastic.
Obviously.
That aside, if those test print-outs are real, to have a second test conducted with the same machine, after only 4 minutes doesn't exactly remove all doubt.
Secondly, not keeping the urine sample for the stated one year is also a large failure of procedure. Which, I will also add, was known about before that blog post.
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So the employer can apply unilateral action but the union can't?
This. Just digging themselves a hole to fall into. Hopefully.
Not when the action of the union has the potential to bring huge disruption to one of the worlds major cities, no.
The dispute is between the union and the employer, any action should taken should not disrupt those who have no involvement in the issue itself.
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In your opinion, which is fortunately contrary to what the law says.
And that's why this country is going down the toilet. Long past time to change the law.
Agreed.
I don't see why an issue between one employee and the employer needs to result in strike action which shuts down (most of) the LU.
Deal with in at an employment tribunal, don't drag most London commuters into it.
You don't see this in other unionised industries.....
The union shouldn't be potentially shutting down the entire network over a dispute about a single employee.
I think we do need further laws to curb the power of unions such as the RMT if they're going to carry on behaving like this. The more they act like this the less public sympathy they'll get and the easier it will be for Tory politicians to crack down further.
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Any person who has reached a position through calm logic and reason would understand yours or agree with it. Those who have not cannot be dissuaded from their own.
Argument is therefore futile, if a person does not agree the only solution left is the eradication of these people if such action suits your purpose.
Personally I don't see why management and union can't get along and resolve the issue like adults. Both sides seem to act like children whenever anything happens, I've notice this at my work too, which is why I'm not a member of a union - I'd rather not have one of them speaking up for me (shouting) when I'm perfectly capable of doing so and seeking legal advice myself.
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The management and union at out place seem to work together quite well but there are a lot of people on the shop floor with the us vs them mindset that always want the union to kick off about absolute petty things that they could sort themselves.
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ACAS are a joke.
The fact is, there is no effective independant arbitration service in this country. Until there is, strikes like this will continue.
When it was illegal to strike in this country, do you think there were no strikes? Do you think workers had nothing to complain about? Do you think when it was illegal to strike that all employers treated thier workers fairly and with compassion?
How do you think the right to strike was won?
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So you don't think it would make any difference if laws re: strikes were modified? Do you think this argument about a single employee getting sacked is remotely comparable to what unions were fighting for in the past before striking was legal?
