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Yep, it's ridiculous, hoping common sense will prevail though but if not, I'll be stocking up before it comes into force.



The Subtank mini is great - I'd read that people had leaking issues with the original full size Subtank so I went for the mini and it's fantastic. Having said that, the Atlantis is also great and you also have the option of buying a 'hollowed out sleeve' for it, so the glass isn't exposed. Not really necessary though if you're careful and it has a smaller capacity.

For the battery, I think you get more bang for your buck with a box mod, and they're just a more convenient size and shape really, plus I know very little about current tube mods. :p If you want something that has removable batteries so you can just put a fresh one in when it runs out, my vote goes to the Sigelei 30W mini, I'm very happy with mine but that does mean you'll have to buy some batteries and a charger. It does actually have a USB charging port but that doesn't take advantage of the flexibility of having removable batteries imo. 30W is easily enough to power the Subtank, I find 25W to be the best for it.

If you want something with a built in battery, the iStick 50W is probably the one to go for. I don't have one so can't say too much about it, but it's worth bearing in mind it takes 5 hours to fully charge. It can be used while charging though and a full charge should last a very long time, and by all accounts it's a very nice device.



Sexy! :D

Thank you for your advice. I was torn between Kanger or atlantis, im still unsure. I understand the box mods are very good, but i like the look of the batteries, specifically the thick short ones. The image of the first page of this thread, maybe something like that.
I know the kanger is new and the aspire has been out sometime, so any nigs and nags have been sorted. Are they basically the same?
A vamo v7? Would they work with a subtank? KSD BABEL 50W MOD? Can anyone recommend something good and solid.

I am tempted with the Sigelei.
 
Thank you for your advice. I was torn between Kanger or atlantis, im still unsure. I understand the box mods are very good, but i like the look of the batteries, specifically the thick short ones. The image of the first page of this thread, maybe something like that.
I know the kanger is new and the aspire has been out sometime, so any nigs and nags have been sorted. Are they basically the same?
A vamo v7? Would they work with a subtank? KSD BABEL 50W MOD? Can anyone recommend something good and solid.

I am tempted with the Sigelei.

I'll be honest and say I'm not a fan of tube mods, mech ones are just metal tubes to me, thou I prefer the simple designs in life.. the ideal mech tube mod for me would be something like the smpl, mcr or hamoriko basically a tube with no markings. As for regulated vv/vw.. the ones I've seen are massive as it basically has to hold the battery and the regulated controller on top or the side of the battery, the other option is to have a smaller battery with reduces battery life.

The Vamo v7 will not fire 0.5 ohm coils, the lowest is 0.7.
The KSD Babel will fire as low as 0.2 ohm but it is massive, it uses 26650 batteries! At a guess its a 30mm tube mod.

I do have one or two tube mods, if I was going to get one now, I would get the joyetech ego one, a provari (over expensive for what it is) or the KSD VARI, which is basically a provari clone.
 
Thank you for your advice. I was torn between Kanger or atlantis, im still unsure. I understand the box mods are very good, but i like the look of the batteries, specifically the thick short ones. The image of the first page of this thread, maybe something like that.
I know the kanger is new and the aspire has been out sometime, so any nigs and nags have been sorted. Are they basically the same?
A vamo v7? Would they work with a subtank? KSD BABEL 50W MOD? Can anyone recommend something good and solid.

I am tempted with the Sigelei.

I really have no idea about tube mods tbh, all I can really say is I was using a Sigelei Legend V2 for quite a while and didn't have any problems with it, but I doubt it's the best and don't think it would work with a 0.5ohm coil. Shame I can't seem to stop it leaking slightly through the bottom air holes (removed both screws).

Yeah the Atlantis and the Subtank are very similar really. The main difference I noticed is the vape is a bit warmer on the Subtank and it doesn't need as much wattage - 25W is best for the Subtank and 30W for the Atlantis imo. I think the Subtank may have slightly better flavour, but the Atlantis may produce slightly more vapour - in those aspects though the difference is tiny, if there is actually any difference at all. You can't go wrong with either really. If I had to choose between one of them... I'd struggle tbh but I'd probably go with the Atlantis as I've got the hollowed out sleeve so would be more comfortable taking it on a night out or something. Just wish they'd make a 5ml version of it!

Edit: forgot to mention, you can't really do mouth-to-lung hits with the Atlantis, Subtank mini is probably better for them but you'll probably find when you get one of these that you start doing direct lung hits anyway, if you don't already.

Currently vaping Banoffee Pie by Vampire Vapes, not a fan tbh, tastes a bit like gone off banana imo.

Think I figured out why I wasn't getting great flavour with my Billow - I was using the cotton I got with my Subtank and not removing the outer sheets - just rewicked with Muji after removing the outer sheets, used a bit less too and it's much better! Shame I can't seem to stop it leaking slightly through the bottom air holes (I assume, removed both screws). Was probably a mistake I made when wicking but think I'll try putting the air hole screws back in for now.
 
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Some nice set ups floating around.

Today's vape mail; the bell cap for kayfun.

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I do like them Bellcaps, what the juice capacity Balky? :)


Yeah found it hidden in the old links, still needs triphammer juices adding to it.

If you haven't tried Fizzy Trifle, Key Lime Pie and Fruit Pastilles you have missed out big time :)

Right there under the YT links. Tbh, I need to get hold of Srick to get it updated, he's not about much anymore...


I've tried the TH juices before, thought they were very average tbh. Devon custard, pink custard, blue custard, fizzy trifle one and two, and more
 
I wonder if TH just ain't great at custards? Maybe the 'old fashioned sweet shop' is their forte? Not used them myself but I kind of fancy some of the sweets, I just don't like any custards. Keep trying them like a fool.
 
Think I've fixed my Billow leaking problem, it was indeed the airflow screws. I put them back in but only enough so they were flush with the bottom of the atty at first, it wasn't leaking as much but still a little bit. Then I screwed them in a bit more so that they wouldn't be making contact with the Sigelei 150W when the atty was screwed on and it seems fine now.

Had to chuck that Vampire Vapes Banoffee Pie away, trying the Strawberry Milkshake now and it's not bad but not one I'll be buying again.
 
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sorry but them bell caps :D

it must be a subjective thing, I mean I don't like them personally, I don't use tanks anyway, I like the look of tanks, but not bell caps.
 
Also, no offence btw to the bell caps ^


Been vaping on this airek rda all day @ 0.18ohms on my 4nine mod, iv got 2x efest 30A 2100mah's and iv use one battery about a good 2.5 hrs until its dropped off too far for it to kick that I want it to then swapped and put other on charge etc.

But from vaping today, the flavour etc from the airek is better than the mutation X v2, so is the air flow, its just a step up really, but like I said last page, buildings a lot harder on it which is a downside, also I only get about 4 good decent pulls from it before I gotta drip more juice it eats it a lot more than the mutation X v2, I got a good 8-10 pulls from the mutation X v2 before I had to drip again.

so again its one of them situations where you wish you had the deep juice well of one rda and the air flow and flavour of another. but ya know beggers cant be choosers as the saying goes :)

Edit, right, the outter shell of the Airek rda fits on the mutation X v2's deck etc quite nicely, apart from it needs a thicker o-ring, so I feel a airek mutation X hybrid coming along here quite nicely :D (needs a few modifications with a angle grinder tho)

So, the outter barrel of the airek, with the deep juice well of the mutation x v2, plus the nice 4 post hole design. win win.

Watch this space! (in about a month when a spare one of each turns up from slow tech)
 
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I'll be honest and say I'm not a fan of tube mods, mech ones are just metal tubes to me, thou I prefer the simple designs in life.. the ideal mech tube mod for me would be something like the smpl, mcr or hamoriko basically a tube with no markings. As for regulated vv/vw.. the ones I've seen are massive as it basically has to hold the battery and the regulated controller on top or the side of the battery, the other option is to have a smaller battery with reduces battery life.

The Vamo v7 will not fire 0.5 ohm coils, the lowest is 0.7.
The KSD Babel will fire as low as 0.2 ohm but it is massive, it uses 26650 batteries! At a guess its a 30mm tube mod.

I do have one or two tube mods, if I was going to get one now, I would get the joyetech ego one, a provari (over expensive for what it is) or the KSD VARI, which is basically a provari clone.

I do like the look on them provari. After reading the tech specs, it shows the p3 goes to 20w and the classic just shows voltages from 2.9-6. Can i use these properly with the subtank? As Zenf stated his sweet spot is 25w. I prefer having a battery max length 3.5", but i am unsure if the battery used in the 3.5" will last all day?

The ProVari™ 3
3.5” L x 0.90” D without atomizer.
Sub-ohm capability - down to .70 ohms
The ProVari™ 3 voltage can be adjusted from 2.9 - 6.0 in 0.1 volt increments.
The ProVari™ 3 wattage can be adjusted from 3 – 20 in 0.2 watt increments

ProVari Classic
2.9-6.0 variable voltage range with .1 volt increments
Measures - 4.1" L X .90" Dia.(without atomizer)

Also, how long will they last? Can i vape with it all day? i dont mind charging batteries every night, but i dont want the battery to be dead after 1 hour of use.
With the joytech one, can you adjust the watts? Does it detect what coil you are using and then adjust the watts for you?

Thanks
 
There is no unifying sweet spot. The sweet spot for him and some others is 25w, depending on the juice they are vaping. The sweet spot for me and the juice that I use is 20w, as the juice flavour disappears if it's any hotter. Of course I can change the jucie and that may require more of less watts.
someone (I think UK tweet) posted the other day that he vaped his at 17.5. It all depends on the persons requirements.

Like wise with the battery, depending on the make and model of the battery and more importantly how much you vape and how long your day is.. will of course affect if the battery will last you all day.. I know for a single Efest 2100mah 18650 which is 6.5 cm long will easly last me just about 2 whole working day, if I'm sub ohming, as I have other mods that I will use once I get home.

Jumping between the using a 2 ohm coil and 0.5 ohm is a massive step.. It's pretty much the two polars of common vaping at the moment, heck you might not like it.. My typical coil setup is around 1.5 or 1.2 depending on the tank I'm using, you may want to try it out in a local vape shop first before buying into it.

Sub ohming before the kanger mini and nano came out and made it more popular and the "in thing" was considered as a dangerous activity and not the "normal". Even when the full size subtank and Atlatis came out, sub ohming was pretty rare. With cheap (and possibly poor) regulated mods firing as low as 0.5 now or lower, it's removed some of the danger, but there is STILL a danger, should "sub ohming" be considered as the "norm"?

It's like someone buying a super car after a few months of passing their test and getting bored driving around in their mum's fistea, there's a whole mid range market that really should be experience. Ohms law learnt about (correctly!) and battery management! I'm not directly this at anyone, but yes; IMHO the subtanks is the best commonly available tank bang for buck on the market today, but recommending it to everyone; without knowing their level of experience is irresponsible. It will only take one noobie to hurt themselves.

I personally think there's three so called levels of vaping;
Noobie: ego/EVOD/clearo tanks and ego batteries, which everyone gets suckered into.
Inter: vv/vw devices (isticks 30w/50w) and tanks with adjustable airflow (aspire nautilus)
Adv: sub-ohming, RDA/RTA, mech mods..

I would have loved to have skipped the noobie level all together, as I consider it a waste of money; thou at the time I didn't even know if I would like vaping rather than smoking, and the cash investment in the 'next level' of kit pretty much doubles.. But I would recommend to anyone starting or using ego batteries (non adjustable batteries) that want something better to get an eleaf istick 30w/50w with an Aspire Nautilus (or mini), end of... Full stop...

It's pretty safe to say that most vapers don't need to go into the "advance" levels of vaping, heck I don't drip or sub ohm everyday (not considering myself as the benchmark), but I'm pretty sure when someone wants to getting into rebuilding, running mech mods and sub ohming, they should be pretty clued up enough to know about safety, know what they want, why they want it, the limits and how to use that device.

Sorry I'll take my mothering apron off now. :) lol

Vape on... But vape safe
 
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Got that Mutation X 510 adapter if you want to shoot me your address IceShock.
Took Grey Haze until last night to even reply to the previous days messages requesting the return address; given up with them.
 
I personally think there's three so called levels of vaping;
Noobie: ego/EVOD/clearo tanks and ego batteries, which everyone gets suckered into.

My noobie kit was A naturevape mini pro which I still use when I want a more discrete mouth to lung vape.

The battery that came with it was shocking though, ego Ctwist which will no longer hold a decent charge after 3 months (2 batteries both died after 3 months each).

On my Smok tho, it is very good for mouth to lung.

Also you forgot one level of vaping, cigalikes..... probably best you did forget it tbh.

:D
 
I personally think there's three so called levels of vaping;
Noobie: ego/EVOD/clearo tanks and ego batteries, which everyone gets suckered into.
Inter: vv/vw devices (isticks 30w/50w) and tanks with adjustable airflow (aspire nautilus)
Adv: sub-ohming, RDA/RTA, mech mods..
Yep, Agree with that, and after going though all the 'stages' myself and after 2+ years of vaping behind me, I say go straight for the inter kits (Subtanks/iSticks etc) Vaping is moving so fast at the mo, all the Ego's/Protank mini's/Evods etc are not only crap but dated too. :)

I think I lasted a week on my Ego and CE4 before I bought a Provari 2.5 and a Kayfun. Best thing I ever did. :D


I am guessing you haven't clicked that link under the youtube vids. ;)
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Its right there dude...

The coil toy one is dead now I think, but tbh its moved to the app's rather than the site and its not that good either. Like I said, I need to catch Slick Rick as that list I gave him it needs updating.



Also, after reading what you guys said about the bellcaps, I see it now. Do not want. lol.
 
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Its right there dude...


The coil toy one is dead now I think, but tbh its moved to the app's rather than the site and its not that good either. Like I said, I need to catch Slick Rick as that list I gave him it needs updating.

The link is out of date and doesn't work, the link I provided is the latest version, and the correct link is in the older links page as I stated :)

TBH life is much easier with a meter, and they are cheap enough to pay for themselves quickly.
 
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