Protect and Serve . . . yeah right !

Source for him having mental heath?

See how easy it is to do;)

Wow I've never seen someone argue so poorly as this.

Have you even looked at the article? :confused:

Witnesses said the dead man was known as Africa and had been homeless after treatment for mental illness.

Shooting victim

  • Nicknamed Africa, had been living on the street for months, eyewitnesses say
  • Said to have spent 10 years in a mental health institution before winding up homeless
  • Said by people who knew him to have not been violent but still exhibited "mental problems"

Just highlight the said bit again.

Are the "witnesses" the guys doctor?
 
Seeing how Stulid avoided my question earlier it seems quite funny that his is being asked :).

With Stulids thinking, if you were drunk and drunkenly made a grab for a police officers gun, that officer (or nearby officers) are entitled to shoot you. Which is the question I asked of him.

Believe it or not if I made a move for an armed police officers gun, drunk or not, I wouldn't be at all surprised if i was shot dead.

I'm drunk. Once I get said gun who knows what I might do??

It's still a tragedy and a waste of life.

These officers make snap calls under pressure. Maybe sometimes they get it wrong. This will be investigated an outcome will be made.

I repeat, its tragic. But people calling the officers involved murderers? C'mon..
 
Also, something isn't pretentious just because you don't understand it.

You're correct, that isn't why I labelled it pretentious though.

Re the rest, yes I added my two pence worth. Got carried away; but we get on of these every other week. People see a video snapshot and start branding police murderers. You even saw it with the Michael Brown case (might not have been a video for that but the officer was still vilified)

Homeless man apparently had mental health issues. Were the police to know that prior to arriving and shooting him? Or did this come out after? They shot him because at that precise moment in time someone judged him to be an immediate threat to the public or themselves.

Being a police officer in America is pretty dangerous, due to it's backward nature with regard to its gun laws.
 
Believe it or not if I made a move for an armed police officers gun, drunk or not, I wouldn't be at all surprised if i was shot dead.

I'm drunk. Once I get said gun who knows what I might do??

It's still a tragedy and a waste of life.

These officers make snap calls under pressure. Maybe sometimes they get it wrong. This will be investigated an outcome will be made.

I repeat, its tragic.

I would like to think those officers could and would react without shooting you balky.

This is tragic, the officers 'dealt' with this situation wrong. There was no need for this man to lose his life.
 
You're correct, that isn't why I labelled it pretentious though.

Re the rest, yes I added my two pence worth. Got carried away; but we get on of these every other week. People see a video snapshot and start branding police murderers. You even saw it with the Michael Brown case (might not have been a video for that but the officer was still vilified)

Homeless man apparently had mental health issues. Were the police to know that prior to arriving and shooting him? Or did this come out after? They shot him because at that precise moment in time someone judged him to be an immediate threat to the public or themselves.

Being a police officer in America is pretty dangerous, due to it's backward nature with regard to its gun laws.

This is a homeless man on 'skid row' in L.A. :o. I fail to understand how the officers would not expect there to be an increased chance of this man suffering from mental health problems.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31702214

Specifically ;

Shooting victim

  • Nicknamed Africa, had been living on the street for months, eyewitnesses say
  • Said to have spent 10 years in a mental health institution before winding up homeless
  • Said by people who knew him to have not been violent but still exhibited "mental problems"
Sources: LA Times and ABC News

"said" to have etc.

;)

Not fact.

Still see how easy it is to do this "source for that" rubbish. :D

I asked for a source and you only just posted it;)

But again, its all speculation that he has mental heath issues, nothing confirmed.

Err, no. I posted the source (link) several post prior. So have you now understood what a source is?
 
I would like to think those officers could and would react without shooting you balky.

This is tragic, the officers 'dealt' with this situation wrong. There was no need for this man to lose his life.

I would hope so to. It would be a drunken mistake by me and I would rather not die. But they have a split second to assess the situation and make a call. It's well within their power to shoot me, and I could be a potential threat if i get my hand on that gun.

I just feel that going round and labelling police murderers is just wrong. They put their lives on the line (arguably even more so than UK police). This will go to review and an outcome will be reached. If they handled it wrongly then they will be punished.
 
Err, no. I posted the source (link) several post prior. So have you now understood what a source is?

You said he had mental heath issues.

:).


Aggressive, homeless man with mental health issues is forced to the ground by four police officers and executed in the middle of the day, and according to you was 'dealt with'.

And I asked for a source proving this which you still haven't done as all he articles are just speculation and assumption as he was on skid row.

from the BBC article (your "source")

The shooting took place in the city's Skid Row where thousands of homeless people live on the streets - many of them suffering from a mental illness.

Many is not 100% all.
 
Homeless guy with mental disability is resisting arrest and gets shot, he happens to be black, everyone shouts racist.

Looks like another popcorn moment.
Ahh, you are one of those people who are like "It's ok, they are just doing their job"
You need to wake up and pull your head out your ass, seriously.
 
This is a homeless man on 'skid row' in L.A. :o. I fail to understand how the officers would not expect there to be an increased chance of this man suffering from mental health problems.

I'm honestly not sure the thought process really works like that on the job, maybe it should?

Even if they did think he might have an increased chance, they still didn't know catagorically that this man had mental issues.
 
I would hope so to. It would be a drunken mistake by me and I would rather not die. But they have a split second to assess the situation and make a call. It's well within their power to shoot me, and I could be a potential threat if i get my hand on that gun.

I just feel that going round and labelling police murderers is just wrong. They put their lives on the line (arguably even more so than UK police). This will go to review and an outcome will be reached. If they handled it wrongly then they will be punished.

They won't though will they, I bet nothing comes of this at all.
 
I asked for a source and you only just posted it;)

But again, its all speculation that he has mental heath issues, nothing confirmed.

You said he had mental heath issues.



And I asked for a source proving this which you still haven't done as all he articles are just speculation and assumption as he was on skid row.

from the BBC article (your "source")



Many is not all.

That isn't what source means. :confused:

source
(sôrs)
n.
1. A person or thing from which something comes into being or is derived or obtained: alternative sources of energy; the source of funding for the project.
2. The point of origin of a stream or river. See Synonyms at origin.
3. One, such as a person or document, that supplies information: A reporter is only as reliable as his or her sources.
4. Physics The point or part of a system where energy or mass is added to the system.

Seriously, some mega effort has to go in to arguing so poorly.
 
You said he had mental heath issues.



And I asked for a source proving this which you still haven't done as all he articles are just speculation and assumption as he was on skid row.

:o

No. No. No.

According to my source, the unarmed victim suffered from mental health problems.

I have provided you with the source for my information :).

I'm not sure you're sure what a the word source means.
 
:o

No. No. No.

According to my source, the unarmed victim suffered from mental health problems.

I have provided you with the source for my information :).

I'm not sure you're sure what a the word source means.

Its all speculation still that he had mental heath issues. Nothing concrete or proven which is the important part.

Could have been of sound body and mind but just homeless.
 
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