Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:52

arknor said:
Here's what your precious United Nations thinks BTW

I've never once said in this thread that Israel were blameless. Of course Israel are doing things which are wrong. I just firmly believe that Israel is the lesser of two evils. I believe the Arabs are worse.

arknor · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:55

Sliver said:
I've never once said in this thread that Israel were blameless. Of course Israel are doing things which are wrong. I just firmly believe that Israel is the lesser of two evils. I believe the Arabs are worse.

Simply because they are Arabs and all Arabs are inherently evil?

thep02 · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:57

Sliver said:
Yeah like no one is stupid enough to use a thermo nuclear weapon. Oh hang on, America dropped two on Japan.

Japan didn't have any to drop on the USA, imho that was a large factor in the US decision to use theirs.

Because of Israel's massive nuclear arsenal and the brilliant IDF they are impossible to defeat in war it would be certain death and radioactive desolation for any fool who attacked them.

CaptainRAVE · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:57

Sliver said:
Yeah like no one is stupid enough to use a thermo nuclear weapon. Oh hang on, America dropped two on Japan.

Japan didn't have nuclear weapons to retaliate with

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:57

lemonade said:
You must be deluded if you think saudi arabia is backing and funding qal qaida and isis, these groups are partially founded and motivated on the basis of destroying saudi arabia as they see it as the snakes head, saudi only funds certain type of movements, and Assad is no enemy of ISIS, if anything the creation and growth of ISIS is what helped assad and turned the revolution over, otherwise the rebel factions would have won long time ago.

Sounds like you are the one who is deluded. A quote from an article explaining how Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS.

He does not doubt that substantial and sustained funding from private donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to which the authorities may have turned a blind eye, has played a central role in the Isis surge into Sunni areas of Iraq

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ke-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:59

CaptainRAVE said:
Japan didn't have nuclear weapons to retaliate with

LoL. Just LOL.

Danthus · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:00

They didn't.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:01

OldCoals said:
They didn't.

Well spotted.

Allow me a minute here ....... LOL............ Ok I'm done now.

CaptainRAVE · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:03

Sliver said:
LoL. Just LOL.

That is your most intelligent response? Of course it is, my reply invalidates your argument.

arknor · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:04

Sliver said:
Sounds like you are the one who is deluded. A quote from an article explaining how Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ke-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

you might want to qoute the whole paragraph

He does not doubt that substantial and sustained funding from private donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to which the authorities may have turned a blind eye, has played a central role in the Isis surge into Sunni areas of Iraq. He said: "Such things simply do not happen spontaneously." This sounds realistic since the tribal and communal leadership in Sunni majority provinces is much beholden to Saudi and Gulf paymasters, and would be unlikely to cooperate with Isis without their consent.

Also same article

The former head of MI6's view that Saudi Arabia is involved in the Isis-led Sunni rebellion, has attracted surprisingly little attention.

same article still

Western governments traditionally play down the connection between Saudi Arabia and its Wahhabist faith, on the one hand, and jihadism, whether of the variety espoused by Osama bin Laden and al-Qa'ida or by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's Isis. There is nothing conspiratorial or secret about these links: 15 out of 19 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis, as was Bin Laden and most of the private donors who funded the operation.

thep02 · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:04

Sliver said:
No it isn't. Australians displaced aborigines, Americans displaced Indians, the British displaced god knows how many people, all fine and dandy. But when Jews displaces Arabs, OMG CALL THE COPS. Ridiculous hypocrisy.

I blame the British empire and the corrupt aristocrats who drew the borders, just like Kashmir, Israel was shafted and left in an impossible position, the fact that because of this terrorists got top positions in the new country didn't help.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:04

Sliver said:
Sounds like you are the one who is deluded. A quote from an article explaining how Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ke-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

Learn to read, it says private donors from Saudi Arabia, not Saudi Arabia itself which you are asserting, they have private donors from all around the place, such as the Gulf, doesn't mean those states are funding them. :rolleyes:

Private funding is actually only a small income of ISIS, they get their money from elsewhere, such as selling oil to Assad lol.

setter · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:05

kwerk said:
How come you need a letter from an approved rabbi stating you're a proper jew in order to go live there then? And if you are a jew you get more rights than a non jew? Sounds a bit theocratic to me.

You dont need a letter from a rabbi to live in israel. My brother has lived there for several years now and never had to get such a document. And he's christian.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:08

CaptainRAVE said:
That is your most intelligent response? Of course it is, my reply invalidates your argument.

I adjust my response accordingly depending on what I'm offered. When I'm offered complete garbage, I reply like a 5 year old. When someone who actually has a well a thought opinion replies, I formulate a reply which is appropriate to the premise offered.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:09

Sliver said:
No it isn't. Australians displaced aborigines, Americans displaced Indians, the British displaced god knows how many people, all fine and dandy. But when Jews displaces Arabs, OMG CALL THE COPS. Ridiculous hypocrisy.

Actually no I don't think that is all fine and dandy, do you want to hear my views on colonialism?

What the british, french et al did is far far worse than what Israel has done and is doing, it was they who helped prop up Israel in the first place and was part of the game plan.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:10

lemonade said:
Learn to read, it says private donors from Saudi Arabia, not Saudi Arabia itself which you are asserting, they have private donors from all around the place, such as the Gulf, doesn't mean those states are funding them.

Private funding is actually only a small income of ISIS, they get their money from elsewhere, such as selling oil to Assad lol.

Sorry to embarrass you but you need to learn to read. Here's a quote that passed you by from that article:

He does not doubt that substantial and sustained funding from private donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to which the authorities may have turned a blind eye, has played a central role in the Isis surge into Sunni areas of Iraq.

So the state clearly had a complicit role to play.

CaptainRAVE · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:11

Sliver said:
I adjust my response accordingly depending on what I'm offered. When I'm offered complete garbage, I reply like a 5 year old. When someone who actually has a well a thought opinion replies, I formulate a reply which is appropriate to the premise offered.

Just sounds like a cop out to me to avoid responding to points that you can't come back on. You still haven't by the way...

jl10000 · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:12

lemonade said:
You must be deluded if you think saudi arabia is backing and funding qal qaida and isis, these groups are partially founded and motivated on the basis of destroying saudi arabia as they see it as the snakes head, saudi only funds certain type of movements, and Assad is no enemy of ISIS

Ex supreme allied commander of NATO.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:13

Sliver said:
Sorry to embarrass you but you need to learn to read. Here's a quote that passed you by from that article:

So the state clearly had a complicit role to play.

No actually learn to read and comprehend, that isn't a fact, but an unsubstantiated assumption.

Tell me why Saudi Arabia is funding opponent rebels of ISIS and supporting the aerial bombardment of ISIS?

If you know anything about geo-politics, Saudi has its own game to play, but it helping an organisation that would ultimately threaten its own existence is pretty much a bit of an own goal.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 21:13

CaptainRAVE said:
Just sounds like a cop out to me to avoid responding to points that you can't come back on. You still haven't by the way...

Well being in a minority here, as most people here seem to be right wing Jew Haters, I am getting a lot posts heading my way. Sorry if I've missed one of yours. Ask me anything and I'll happily give you my honest reply.