Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

arknor · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:28

Sliver said:
That doesn't wash with me m8. Yes Israel have killed innocents. But so have Palestinian terrorists. Every war in history ever has had innocents killed, so forgive me when I say your argument is vapid and flaccid.

You have no clue about the history of Israel at all do you?
http://time.com/3445003/mandatory-palestine/

How Israel was formed, never mind the Palestinians were already there, just chuck them out and let's make a new country.

The majority of israel settlements are illegal according to the UN IF america didn't veto it every time there's been a vote...

Amnesia · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:29

Sliver said:
Iran is a theocracy. How many times do I have to repeat myself ? If you don't understand the dangers of a messianic theocracy with apocalyptic thermo nuclear devices then sorry, but I can't help you.

i just see double standards (and excuses) on your part

Danthus · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:30

Sliver said:
That doesn't wash with me m8. Yes Israel have killed innocents. But so have Palestinian terrorists. Every war in history ever has had innocents killed, so forgive me when I say your argument is vapid and flaccid.

What about the document where Israel calculated the minimum amount of food them they would let into Gaza.

thep02 · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:34

AGD said:
Netanyahu says this every year and has been found lying about it in the past.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-crying-wolf-iranian-nuclear-bomb/

He does it for domestic political reasons and judging by the recent corruption in office cases possibly financial reasons.

Likud raise tensions with the neighbours and thus more people vote for the tough talking leader with the war hero brother.

kwerk · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:35

Sliver said:
Yes. Iran is far more of a threat to the region than Israel. Iran is a theocracy, Israel a democracy. Understand the difference and the dangers.

How come you need a letter from an approved rabbi stating you're a proper jew in order to go live there then? And if you are a jew you get more rights than a non jew? Sounds a bit theocratic to me.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:35

arknor said:
You have no clue about the history of Israel at all do you?
http://time.com/3445003/mandatory-palestine/

How Israel was formed, never mind the Palestinians were already there, just chuck them out and let's make a new country.

The majority of israel settlements are illegal according to the UN IF america didn't veto it every time there's been a vote...

Thanks for the assertion about what you THINK I know. I'm well aware of Israel's history. For example, within 24 hours of them declaring themselves a sovereign state back on the 14th of May 1948, they were invaded. This set a repeating pattern of attacks which carry forward to this day, which force Israel to defend itself.

The united nations, yes that includes us the UK, voted for the formation of the state of Israel. So for you to now criticise this in some misguided defence of Palestine ( Why defend Palestine btw ? ) seems hypocritical.

arknor · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:35

lemonade said:
Lol at everyone cosying up to Iran, they no better or worse than Israel and have their own gameplan in the Middle East, they are the ones supplying and supporting people like Assad to barrel bomb kids and mutilate kids through militias there proxies use, same in Yemen.

Essentially they have messianic outview of the world just like Israel, where they believe they have to create a powerful state in order for the coming of their 'messiah'.

Is that the same kids America is killing when they bomb ISIS in Syria ? the same people assad is bombing you know those guys who were freedom fighters before they became ISIS.

Also you might want to look at some western allies such as Saudi Arabia who Hillary Clinton tells us wonderful things about such as

"Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups."

Apparently they also funded the iraqi insurgents, you know those guys who became ISIS?

Iran are pretty harmless according to history

Thanks for the assertion about what you THINK I know. I'm well aware of Israel's history. For example, within 24 hours of them declaring themselves a sovereign state back on the 14th of May 1948, they were invaded. This set a repeating pattern of attacks which carry forward to this day, which force Israel to defend itself.

The united nations, yes that includes us the UK, voted for the formation of the state of Israel. So for you to now criticise this in some misguided defence of Palestine ( Why defend Palestine btw ? ) seems hypocritical.

What power do the united nations have that they can carve out existing territory into a new country?

let's say the good old UN had a vote tomorrow that half of England should be given to the jews as an independent country and everyone living there should just up and leave then you would be fine with this?

then as this country expands and slowly takes over the whole of england whilst imprisoning the population in wales surounding by 3 huge walls and gunboats on the other side your still fine right?

ofcourse england wouldn't fight back to stop it because the UN is clearly the owner of the whole world

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:36

Amnesia said:
i just see double standards (and excuses) on your part

Well look harder cause you're clearly not seeing the full picture.

Muzy · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:37

OldCoals said:
What danger does Iran pose?

they hate zionist and want to wipe them out.

Danthus · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:38

Muzy said:
they hate zionist and want to wipe them out.

I hope you are not referring to the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speech.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:40

Sliver said:
What ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_and_democratic_state

Israel is a democracy.

Claiming to be a democracy is different to being a democracy in practice.

CaptainRAVE · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:40

Sliver said:
Actively pursuing a nuclear weapons program is in your opinion, no threat ?

Even if they are, they aren't stupid enough to use them. They might say they will, but they are smart Anouilh to also know the outcome.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:42

lemonade said:
Claiming to be a democracy is different to being a democracy in practice.

What are you even talking about ? Israel is a democracy. End of discussion. If you can't accept that then you're in a little lemonade bubble of fantasy all by your self.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:44

CaptainRAVE said:
Even if they are, they aren't stupid enough to use them. They might say they will, but they are smart Anouilh to also know the outcome.

Yeah like no one is stupid enough to use a thermo nuclear weapon. Oh hang on, America dropped two on Japan.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:44

Sliver said:
Thanks for the assertion about what you THINK I know. I'm well aware of Israel's history. For example, within 24 hours of them declaring themselves a sovereign state back on the 14th of May 1948, they were invaded. This set a repeating pattern of attacks which carry forward to this day, which force Israel to defend itself.

The united nations, yes that includes us the UK, voted for the formation of the state of Israel. So for you to now criticise this in some misguided defence of Palestine ( Why defend Palestine btw ? ) seems hypocritical.

If you declare a state in another peoples land then yes I guess that is being invaded.

Sliver · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:45

lemonade said:
If you declare a state in another peoples land then yes I guess that is being invaded.

No it isn't. Australians displaced aborigines, Americans displaced Indians, the British displaced god knows how many people, all fine and dandy. But when Jews displaces Arabs, OMG CALL THE COPS. Ridiculous hypocrisy.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:46

Sliver said:
What are you even talking about ? Israel is a democracy. End of discussion. If you can't accept that then you're in a little lemonade bubble of fantasy all by your self.

A democracy where non-Jews are treated like second class citizens, it's an ethnocracy and was founded on such basis.

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:46

Sliver said:
No it isn't.

Well I'm glad we agree on that.

arknor · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:48

Sliver said:
The united nations, yes that includes us the UK, voted for the formation of the state of Israel. So for you to now criticise this in some misguided defence of Palestine ( Why defend Palestine btw ? ) seems hypocritical.

Here's what your precious United Nations thinks BTW

Israel = occupation even the UN thinks that since most of it's settlements are outside the borders drawn up by the UN when Israel was created

lemonade · 3 Mar 2015 at 20:50

arknor said:
Is that the same kids America is killing when they bomb ISIS in Syria ? the same people assad is bombing you know those guys who were freedom fighters before they became ISIS.

Also you might want to look at some western allies such as Saudi Arabia who Hillary Clinton tells us wonderful things about such as

Apparently they also funded the iraqi insurgents, you know those guys who became ISIS?

Iran are pretty harmless according to history

You must be deluded if you think saudi arabia is backing and funding qal qaida and isis, these groups are partially founded and motivated on the basis of destroying saudi arabia as they see it as the snakes head, saudi only funds certain type of movements, and Assad is no enemy of ISIS, if anything the creation and growth of ISIS is what helped assad and turned the revolution over, otherwise the rebel factions would have won long time ago.

Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

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