Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare

ZXSpectrum said:
Well 15 More Prestige levels, Mad purple armour and Elite weapon for every Master Prestige level...

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I don't know what I think about the Elite Weapons being able to be earned like that, mainly as there is no way I will get to that level. I would have preferred specific challenges that anyone can do not just the people that are on Prestige Master.
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It is just another cynical method of generating cash and prolonging the life of the game till the next one comes out.

I am completely against the modern day obsession with achievements, and I am also completely against DLC content dividing the online community and giving players an advantage because they paid more (basically making it P2W). Particularly when you know the content of the DLC could have been put in the game for release.

Sure, there are people that will argue about deadlines and cost, yada yada yada. The bottom line is that it is a rip off and unnecessary in most cases. It seems to be an element of the modern console centric development strategy that has proliferated to an obscene extent. It also appears to be a side effect of corporate publishing rather than passionate developers.

Without achievements we are nothing!!! :rolleyes:

Perhaps it is also indicative of younger players not being able to see the wood for the trees and who are happy to spend £20 on a couple of new guns and maps because new stuff is cool, right? I can't really see older players falling for it (or at least I sincerely hope they don't), but it must create sales or they wouldn't be stuffing it down our throats every 12 months. So someone must be buying it.

Whoever you are that buys this crap, you are part of the problem not the solution :)

Jump under a bus, or off a cliff or maybe just dont buy that crap anymore (which is a safer and easier option! ;) )
 
How is it a cynical method to generate cash?

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The new prestige levels are nothing to do with generating cash....your rant seems very odd.
 
Yeah I agree.. The only way that would be the case is if you were required to have the DLC. You don't have to buy any of the DLC to get these extra Prestige levels or weapons.

As far as I am aware the only weapons that you have to pay for are the ones that are in the DLC and they are still not required. Yes there are new skins etc but again you do not have to buy them at all.
 
Yes but can you not see by offering this kind of thing it sucks people in to spend more time in the game and increases the chances they will spend more money on microtransactions / DLC?

People hit level 10 prestige and have nowhere to go. They go and play something esle because they have been conditioned to feel that they need 'achievements' to feel like they are, well, achieving. Because of this, servers become less populated, other players can't get a decent game so they too leave for something else.

That is a conflict with the marketing plan to keep the game alive and thus making money until the 'new' version comes out. It will be called Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare 2 (for a guess :) )

It is typical cynical carrot dangling to buoy a game that is struggling to stay alive just a few months after release.

For example - why were the increased prestige levels not in the initial release? Surely with the amount of CoD games that have been developed, it could have been foreseen that an extra 15 levels would add life to the game? Because it fools players into thinking they are getting something better, something for free. Isn't that very nice and kind of the devs/pubs?

Chances are it is simply a headline that was planned during development to keep the game talked about and make it look like they are adding to the overall quality with continued development. Whereas the truth of the matter is it was all developed and planned before the game was released :)
 
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BuffetSlayer said:
For example - why were the increased prestige levels not in the initial release? Surely with the amount of CoD games that have been developed, it could have been foreseen that an extra 15 levels would add life to the game? Because it fools players into thinking they are getting something better, something for free. Isn't that very nice and kind of the devs/pubs?

Chances are it is simply a headline that was planned during development to keep the game talked about and make it look like they are adding to the overall quality with continued development. Whereas the truth of the matter is it was all developed and planned before the game was released :)
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My guess is that the extra levels were added in because people were crying about not getting elite weapons in supply drops, now there is a way to make people grind to get them, it's been added (IMHO) as a now they can say, well we've given you a method to earn them off you go.
 
Just checked and it doesn't look like my favs have been touched apart from the ASM1 which has a slightly lower initial fire rate. Here is a full list of mods in the patch to save people for looking about for them :)

DLC 1 Havoc New Content [PC]:
◦New Maps Added for Multiplayer and Exo Survival: Drift, Urban, Core, and Sideshow.
◦New Mode Added: Exo Zombies.
◦New Weapon Added: AE4, and 10 of the AE4 variants have been added to the loot pool.
◦Added DLC playlists; HAVOC TDM and HAVOC Mosh Pit.
◦Added the Havoc DLC maps to the map rotation in the Hardcore Mosh Pit playlist.



In-Game Updates:

◦Full Royalty Character Loot Set unlocked.


◦Connectivity Optimizations

◦Connectivity and matchmaking improvements when in a party.
◦Added 15 Master Prestige ranks and Grand Master Prestige.
◦Added 15 more Daily Supply Drop Challenges.
◦Fixed a rare issue where players were not able to spawn into the game.
◦Fixed the sound of the SAC3 with the Suppressor Attachment to not play in stereo to all players on the map.
◦Fixed a rare issue where players would spawn without a gun.
◦Players will now be shown a “Player does not own the map pack” message when a player without the Havoc DLC joins their party.
◦Added the ability for purchased Create-A-Class slots to appear in Private Matches.
◦[Xbox One] Connectivity improvement to Xbox Live servers when returning from Energy-Saving mode.
◦[Xbox One, Xbox 360] Fixed a rare crash issue with signing out with one player while split screen.
◦[Xbox 360] Reduced the max number of players in a Private Match to 10.



Weapon Balancing Updates (Note: Adjustments affect base weapon and all loot variants):
◦Heavy weapons: increase player movement speed by 5%
◦Corrected scopes on the AE4.
◦MK14 - reduced recoil
◦ARX160 - increased magazine size
◦AMR9 - increased damage, decreased time between bursts
◦SN6 - reduced recoil
◦KF5 - mid damage range increased
◦Atlas 45 - mid damage range increased, max damage range increased
◦PDW - increased damage
◦Shotguns: reduced spread when using Gung-Ho
◦S12 - increased fire rate, increased damage
◦EPM3 - reduced recoil
◦Lynx - reduced recoil
◦ASM1 – slightly reduced initial fire rate



UI Updates:
◦Rare Supply Drop Error messages when opening fixed.
◦Added a display for how many free slots you have in the Armory from the “Redeem Items” menu.
◦Replaced the camouflage images for Diamond and Royalty with the correct images in the Create-A-Class menu.
◦Replaced the Valkyrie loadout for the Centurion loadout for players who were incorrected rewarded this character gear in Clan Wars.
◦Fixed an issue where duplicates of unlocked items were showing in the New Items list.
◦Fixed an issue where some Create-A-Class were showing the incorrect lock status when selecting a Permanent Unlock when Prestiging.
◦Adjusted kill feed speed from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.



Challenges Updates:
◦Removed ability to earn more than one of a non-redeemable character gear from the Daily Supply Drop Challenges.
◦Players will no longer receive a Daily Supply Drop Challenge for non-redeemable gear they have already acquired.
◦Removed the incorrect challenge for the Crossbow Scope to unlock at 10 kills.



Store Updates:
◦[Xbox One] Players with other profiles who purchased DLC on the same console are now able to properly purchase DLC on their own profile.



Emblem Updates:
◦Fixed an issue where the Emblem would sometimes apply incorrectly to the player card.



Scorestreak Updates:
◦Sentry Gun turrets now die in one melee hit.
◦Decreased the amount of time the player has to hold X to exit a remote controlled Sentry Turret.
◦Unmodified Missile Strike missiles now travel faster when boosting (by hitting the fire button while coming down).
◦The Vulcan laser scorestreak now fires longer.



Ranked Play Updates:
◦Added probation time for players who do not complete or disconnect from Ranked Play matches.
◦Will properly award Division Points in the case of a forfeited match (when the entire other team leaves).



Broadcaster Updates
◦Adjusted the colors and over all look for Broadcaster mode to make text and names easier to read and a better experience for viewers.
◦Fixed a rare issue where HUD elements would get stuck on the broadcaster’s screen.



Game Mode Specific Updates:
◦S&D: Added UI to show if you were attacking or defending at the start of the round.
◦One Shot: Increased Kill Confirmed score limit to 80 in the One Shot Mosh Pit playlist.
◦Gun Game: Added a leaderboard for Gun Game.
◦Momentum: Adjusted spawn locations for the Drift map.
◦Uplink: Fixed an issue where the satellite drone could get stuck on the Clown Inn sign.



Map Specific Updates:
◦Fixed various out of map exploits across different multiplayer maps.
◦Fixed an issue where Orbital Care Packages were removed from areas of the map on Drift after the dynamic map event.
◦Fixed an issue where indestructible objects would show up on the Sideshow map.
◦Adjusted the A Bomb site location on Sideshow.
◦Fixed a performance issue with some of the dynamic map pieces on the Core map.
◦Adjusted spawns locations for the Drift map..
◦Fixed Aerial Assault Drone and Recon Drone out of world exploits on the Sideshow map.



Exo Survival Updates:
◦Fixed various out of map exploits across different multiplayer maps.



Exo Zombies Updates:
◦Added ability for players to pause the game in single-player Private match.
◦Fixed an issue where players were not able to join a match together while in a party.
◦Fixed various out of map exploits where players could remain in place and not be attacked by zombies.
◦Removed the ability for host to start the match before players were ready in a Private Match setting.
◦Fixed an issue for the 20/20 Achievement so weapons that are reacquired after leveling it up to level 20 still count towards the achievement status.
◦Exo Zombies intro movie is now skippable.
◦Fixed a rare crash issue in Exo Zombies.
◦Fixed an issue where certain camos were missing for the ARX160.
◦Fixed an issue where the pop-up messaging for Player 2 could only be closed by Player 1.
◦Fixed a rare issue where the After Action Report was showing the incorrect map information after joining a Private Match

My Amazing KF5 Breakneck should be even better now.. :D
 
ZXSpectrum said:
Just checked and it doesn't look like my favs have been touched apart from the ASM1 which has a slightly lower initial fire rate. Here is a full list of mods in the patch to save people for looking about for them :)

DLC 1 Havoc New Content [PC]:
◦New Maps Added for Multiplayer and Exo Survival: Drift, Urban, Core, and Sideshow.
◦New Mode Added: Exo Zombies.
◦New Weapon Added: AE4, and 10 of the AE4 variants have been added to the loot pool.
◦Added DLC playlists; HAVOC TDM and HAVOC Mosh Pit.
◦Added the Havoc DLC maps to the map rotation in the Hardcore Mosh Pit playlist.



In-Game Updates:

◦Full Royalty Character Loot Set unlocked.


◦Connectivity Optimizations

◦Connectivity and matchmaking improvements when in a party.
◦Added 15 Master Prestige ranks and Grand Master Prestige.
◦Added 15 more Daily Supply Drop Challenges.
◦Fixed a rare issue where players were not able to spawn into the game.
◦Fixed the sound of the SAC3 with the Suppressor Attachment to not play in stereo to all players on the map.
◦Fixed a rare issue where players would spawn without a gun.
◦Players will now be shown a “Player does not own the map pack” message when a player without the Havoc DLC joins their party.
◦Added the ability for purchased Create-A-Class slots to appear in Private Matches.
◦[Xbox One] Connectivity improvement to Xbox Live servers when returning from Energy-Saving mode.
◦[Xbox One, Xbox 360] Fixed a rare crash issue with signing out with one player while split screen.
◦[Xbox 360] Reduced the max number of players in a Private Match to 10.



Weapon Balancing Updates (Note: Adjustments affect base weapon and all loot variants):
◦Heavy weapons: increase player movement speed by 5%
◦Corrected scopes on the AE4.
◦MK14 - reduced recoil
◦ARX160 - increased magazine size
◦AMR9 - increased damage, decreased time between bursts
◦SN6 - reduced recoil
◦KF5 - mid damage range increased
◦Atlas 45 - mid damage range increased, max damage range increased
◦PDW - increased damage
◦Shotguns: reduced spread when using Gung-Ho
◦S12 - increased fire rate, increased damage
◦EPM3 - reduced recoil
◦Lynx - reduced recoil
◦ASM1 – slightly reduced initial fire rate



UI Updates:
◦Rare Supply Drop Error messages when opening fixed.
◦Added a display for how many free slots you have in the Armory from the “Redeem Items” menu.
◦Replaced the camouflage images for Diamond and Royalty with the correct images in the Create-A-Class menu.
◦Replaced the Valkyrie loadout for the Centurion loadout for players who were incorrected rewarded this character gear in Clan Wars.
◦Fixed an issue where duplicates of unlocked items were showing in the New Items list.
◦Fixed an issue where some Create-A-Class were showing the incorrect lock status when selecting a Permanent Unlock when Prestiging.
◦Adjusted kill feed speed from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.



Challenges Updates:
◦Removed ability to earn more than one of a non-redeemable character gear from the Daily Supply Drop Challenges.
◦Players will no longer receive a Daily Supply Drop Challenge for non-redeemable gear they have already acquired.
◦Removed the incorrect challenge for the Crossbow Scope to unlock at 10 kills.



Store Updates:
◦[Xbox One] Players with other profiles who purchased DLC on the same console are now able to properly purchase DLC on their own profile.



Emblem Updates:
◦Fixed an issue where the Emblem would sometimes apply incorrectly to the player card.



Scorestreak Updates:
◦Sentry Gun turrets now die in one melee hit.
◦Decreased the amount of time the player has to hold X to exit a remote controlled Sentry Turret.
◦Unmodified Missile Strike missiles now travel faster when boosting (by hitting the fire button while coming down).
◦The Vulcan laser scorestreak now fires longer.



Ranked Play Updates:
◦Added probation time for players who do not complete or disconnect from Ranked Play matches.
◦Will properly award Division Points in the case of a forfeited match (when the entire other team leaves).



Broadcaster Updates
◦Adjusted the colors and over all look for Broadcaster mode to make text and names easier to read and a better experience for viewers.
◦Fixed a rare issue where HUD elements would get stuck on the broadcaster’s screen.



Game Mode Specific Updates:
◦S&D: Added UI to show if you were attacking or defending at the start of the round.
◦One Shot: Increased Kill Confirmed score limit to 80 in the One Shot Mosh Pit playlist.
◦Gun Game: Added a leaderboard for Gun Game.
◦Momentum: Adjusted spawn locations for the Drift map.
◦Uplink: Fixed an issue where the satellite drone could get stuck on the Clown Inn sign.



Map Specific Updates:
◦Fixed various out of map exploits across different multiplayer maps.
◦Fixed an issue where Orbital Care Packages were removed from areas of the map on Drift after the dynamic map event.
◦Fixed an issue where indestructible objects would show up on the Sideshow map.
◦Adjusted the A Bomb site location on Sideshow.
◦Fixed a performance issue with some of the dynamic map pieces on the Core map.
◦Adjusted spawns locations for the Drift map..
◦Fixed Aerial Assault Drone and Recon Drone out of world exploits on the Sideshow map.



Exo Survival Updates:
◦Fixed various out of map exploits across different multiplayer maps.



Exo Zombies Updates:
◦Added ability for players to pause the game in single-player Private match.
◦Fixed an issue where players were not able to join a match together while in a party.
◦Fixed various out of map exploits where players could remain in place and not be attacked by zombies.
◦Removed the ability for host to start the match before players were ready in a Private Match setting.
◦Fixed an issue for the 20/20 Achievement so weapons that are reacquired after leveling it up to level 20 still count towards the achievement status.
◦Exo Zombies intro movie is now skippable.
◦Fixed a rare crash issue in Exo Zombies.
◦Fixed an issue where certain camos were missing for the ARX160.
◦Fixed an issue where the pop-up messaging for Player 2 could only be closed by Player 1.
◦Fixed a rare issue where the After Action Report was showing the incorrect map information after joining a Private Match

My Amazing KF5 Breakneck should be even better now.. :D
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Ace thanks.
How big is that update please?
 
ZXSpectrum said:
My Amazing KF5 Breakneck should be even better now.. :D
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I have one of those, but I tend to prefer the SN6.....

I wonder if the reduction in recoil on the SN6 is going to make it more usable without a foregrip?

Not a lot that effects me in that update as I dont have the DLC, I dont play any of the game modes that have been tweaked etc etc.

I think people are struggling getting into AW to be honest. From what I read it is struggling in sales compared to it's predecessors and the fact that Activision are not shouting their figures from the roof tops is yet another indication sales are down. As time drags on, the business analysts are increasingly skeptical of how successful AW has actually been.

I think they have had 2 hum-dingers in a row now: Ghosts and AW. Perhaps the tide is turning on the CoD machine?

I think it was a bad move to only have Mosh Pit in classic mode. I think they could have kept far more players if they had a full compliment of game modes for classic too. I know I would be playing it more if they did.
 
I can't believe the Havoc DLC still isn't available in HTDM or anything else hardcore other than Mosh Pit.

What a waste of money that was for me.
 
BuffetSlayer said:
I have one of those, but I tend to prefer the SN6.....

I wonder if the reduction in recoil on the SN6 is going to make it more usable without a foregrip?

Not a lot that effects me in that update as I dont have the DLC, I dont play any of the game modes that have been tweaked etc etc.

I think people are struggling getting into AW to be honest. From what I read it is struggling in sales compared to it's predecessors and the fact that Activision are not shouting their figures from the roof tops is yet another indication sales are down. As time drags on, the business analysts are increasingly skeptical of how successful AW has actually been.

I think they have had 2 hum-dingers in a row now: Ghosts and AW. Perhaps the tide is turning on the CoD machine?

I think it was a bad move to only have Mosh Pit in classic mode. I think they could have kept far more players if they had a full compliment of game modes for classic too. I know I would be playing it more if they did.
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I love my Breakneck if you are accurate with the first couple of shots its awesome as they do more damage and rip through people. It truly is a great weapon.

I do like AW. I have just learned to live with the fact that I can get shot from almost any direction and K/D ratio means nothing to me. I usually play dom and I am constantly going for the objective and actually playing that game. I don't know why people don't just play TDM if they want to killfarm. I also love Hardpoint as it has the same premise as DOM but more concentrated on one point :D
 
I'd love to try the new patch, but us Dickensian citizens on PS4 have to wait god knows how long for the patch after the Xbox Master race.
 
Allegedly it's due to Sony certification, but it seems most odd now that Xbox get these patches first and Sony seemingly get them 1/2 weeks later.

It stinks in all honesty.
 
ZXSpectrum said:
I love my Breakneck if you are accurate with the first couple of shots its awesome as they do more damage and rip through people. It truly is a great weapon.

I do like AW. I have just learned to live with the fact that I can get shot from almost any direction and K/D ratio means nothing to me. I usually play dom and I am constantly going for the objective and actually playing that game. I don't know why people don't just play TDM if they want to killfarm. I also love Hardpoint as it has the same premise as DOM but more concentrated on one point :D
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I have tried and tried and tried to like it. I want to like it. Some days I like it better than others, but the flaws and design decisions baffle and frustrate me.

I finished the single player game last night. It was more fun than I remember, but nothing remarkable. I am also playing the BF4 single player. I find it better, personally, even though it is older and not quite as good looking.

I think SHG had an amazing opportunity with AW, and for whatever reason they didn't pull it off.

Quietly I believe it may have been down to platform limitations. As good as the current-gen consoles are, the couldn't cope with a graphically maxed out AW using 90 FOV on a 32 player server running maps that are 2-3 times the size of the current ones in the game (imo).

Unfortunately AW may be the sign of things to come because peoples obsession with shiny graphics means there isn't a lof of wiggle room for anything else.
 
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