Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

Will21st said:
Define good guys? I support Israel, simple as. You know, that evil Democracy in the midst of your wonderful Islamic theocracies.



Nope, it's downplaying because it's mainly nonsense. The only rejection of reality going on around here is your limitless understand for terrorism and Islamic aggression.
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My wonderful Islamic theocracies? When have I ever said or suggested such a thing?

Also, why don't you define good guys? Since you started with throwing about "bad guys".
 
ubersonic said:
Just because Israel were the good guys in the holocaust does not make them the good guys in every single situation imaginable. If Israel declared war on Ireland and started nuking them because they randomly decided the potato was anti-semitic would Ireland be the bad guys because Israel was involved? No of course not.
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What?

ubersonic said:
Iran is not a very good place to live, Israel is not a bad place, but currently Israel are being the bad guys and Iran are not.
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if you say so...
 
Will21st said:
What?
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Well it was self explanatory, but if your a bit....slow, I will clarify.

You are taking the position that Israel = good and therefore anyone Israel has a problem with must be bad, including a non threatening country that keeps themselves to themselves. I was merely pointing out the stupidity of your stance.
 
ubersonic said:
Well it was self explanatory, but if your a bit....slow, I will clarify.

You are taking the position that Israel = good and therefore anyone Israel has a problem with must be bad, including a non threatening country that keeps themselves to themselves. I was merely pointing out the stupidity of your stance.
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Thank you for your unnecessary clarification, my 'What?' referred to the obvious idiocy of your point, so well done. As you were.

Not to mention the fact that Israel was nonexistent during WW2, but I guess you meant jews. It's ok, I guess you're a bit... slow, so I clarified that for you.
 
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Will21st said:
Thank you for your unnecessary clarification, my 'What?' referred to the obvious idiocy of your point, so well done.
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Well, if you found it idiotic I guess you must have failed to understand it correctly as it was very sensical, luckily I made the necessary clarification :)

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Will21st said:
Not to mention the fact that Israel was nonexistent during WW2, but I guess you meant jews.
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Damn ninja edits while I'm replying lol, yeah that was a typo, I meant jews (well actually I meant the jews).
 
Sliver said:
The Iran/Iraq war is well documented. I'll leave it to you to do your own research. Far be it from me to tell you what to think. Just examine the facts.
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And who is responsible for the regime in Iran? The UK and the US. If we had not created the coup against the democratically elected Govt and put the Shah in power then the current regime would not exist. Yet another example of Western meddling in the region.
 
Sliver said:
Let me clarify. I'm not saying ALL Arabs are 'X' or ALL Muslims are 'X'. I understand that within every population there is variety. What I find contemptible are the negative effects of religion, while appreciating the positive, and the cultural norms found in Arab countries that don't sit right with me as a Westerner who values free speech and equality for all under the law.

No. nothing to do with distrust or ignorance. More to do with an epistemic understanding of reality.
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Yet you support Israel, or more specifically the current regime?

The government under Netanyahu has become more and more extremist, I really hope he gets dumped in the next election. Him staying in power and the republicans taking control of the US will be a recipe for disaster. The settlements that are causing much of the current destabilisation in Palestine and the rabid aggression against a Palestinian state are just two examples of what could get much worse.

And stop with the anti Semite argument. Just because people do not support Israeli policy (both foreign and domestic) or the Zionist agenda does not mean they are anti Jewish or "Jew haters". Continuing to try and shut down arguments using this method reflects more on you than the posters you try and slight.
 
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Sliver said:
Not persecuted now ? Do you live in a fact condom ? Recently in France several Jews were murdered in cold blood by Muslim fundamentalist terrorists. Attacks against Jews are on the rise all across Europe. Seriously stop watching Fox News.
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Islamic extremists target everyone and hold hatred for all non Muslims and even Muslims who are a bit different to them.

Yes Jews are sometimes targeted specifically but that's due to Israel and its policies.

Apart from these terrorists there is not much anti semitism around the world.
 
Amp34 said:
Yet you support Israel, or more specifically the current regime?

The government under Netanyahu has become more and more extremist, I really hope he gets dumped in the next election. Him staying in power and the republicans taking control of the US will be a recipe for disaster. The settlements that are causing much of the current destabilisation in Palestine and the rabid aggression against a Palestinian state are just two examples of what could get much worse.

And stop with the anti Semite argument. Just because people do not support Israeli policy (both foreign and domestic) or the Zionist agenda does not mean they are anti Jewish or "Jew haters". Continuing to try and shut down arguments using this method reflects more on you than the posters you try and slight.
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The anti-semitism argument usually is used by Israel itself to respond to any criticisms.

I'm starting to think that Sliver is Israeli, I just can't see why someone would be in such support of them otherwise.
 
By Silvers criteria two work colleagues in my office are "Jew Haters" as they actively protest and campaign against Israeli foreign and domestic policy....... Pity they are both Jewish :rolleyes:
 
spoffle said:
The anti-semitism argument usually is used by Israel itself to respond to any criticisms.

I'm starting to think that Sliver is Israeli, I just can't see why someone would be in such support of them otherwise.
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Not even all Israelis agree with the stuff he is staying...that's why Netanyahu is falling in the polls and he is trying to politicise the "BIG BAD ENEMY" rhetoric.
 
Sliver said:
But I get the impression you're one of these forum members who has an opinion about something and just sticks to it come what may. Links, sources, facts, evidence, none of these will matter to you. So, I'm wasting my time talking to you. Unless of course you can change my mind and I am open to change given sufficient evidence.
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i read up to this statement then my irony meter exploded.. :D
 
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