Netanyahu: Iran a threat to the world.

You forgot numbers don't matter to Silver :)

It's about intent though. How many civilians do you think Israel wanted to kill? I would say none, ideally. How many civilians to you think those firing the rockets into Israel wanted to kill? All of them, ideally?

I know Iran has called for the destruction of Israel, but they aren't anti Jewish, many Jews do live in Iran. What they and the Arab states around them don't like is the state existing in what they regard as Palestine. If Israel was broken up and became Palestine with everyone living in Peace, the whole region would be far more stable.

I find that extremely naive, to be honest. Do you really think that if Israel was "dissolved" the Jews would be allowed to just live in peace and all would be well? You know very well what would happen.

Whether we like it or not, the state of Israel isn't going anywhere. As this thread has proved, trying to sort the whole mess out is going to be a monumental challenge.
 
“If we wanted to annihilate Jews, we have a large number of Jewish population in Iran who not only live in the country in peace, but, in fact, have a representative in Iranian parliament allocated to them, disproportionately to their number,” Zarif said.

and

“Every 150,000 Iranian Muslims has a representative in the parliament, whereas less than 20,000 Jews in Iran have a representative in the parliament. So we’re not about annihilation of Jews.

Interesting points you almost never hear from western media.
 
It's about intent though. How many civilians do you think Israel wanted to kill? I would say none, ideally. How many civilians to you think those firing the rockets into Israel wanted to kill? All of them, ideally?

They both launched attacks intent on doing damage... Lets not try to make Israel out to be white knights.

The only thing is Israeli attacks where more "successful".

If Israel truly wanted peace in the middle east they would restore the Palestinians land.

Whether we like it or not, the state of Israel isn't going anywhere. As this thread has proved, trying to sort the whole mess out is going to be a monumental challenge.

And given Israel will not compromise with the land they are stealing its not going to happen any time soon.

Israel are not the victims here, the innocent people being hounded out of their homes etc are the victims. The people being treated like second class citizens are the victims...

The retaliation on Israel with the rockets provoked more Israeli attacks but really who suffers the most?

Like someone said previously in the thread if it was your home? your kids? your mother etc.... Would you take up arms?

I would in a heartbeat. Some things are worth fighting for.
 
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It's about intent though. How many civilians do you think Israel wanted to kill? I would say none, ideally. How many civilians to you think those firing the rockets into Israel wanted to kill? All of them, ideally?



I find that extremely naive, to be honest. Do you really think that if Israel was "dissolved" the Jews would be allowed to just live in peace and all would be well? You know very well what would happen.

Whether we like it or not, the state of Israel isn't going anywhere. As this thread has proved, trying to sort the whole mess out is going to be a monumental challenge.

Call me naive then, but when neighbouring countries have mixed religions living in peace, Christians living in peace and solidarity in Gaza I believe it would be fine which is a testament to the Palestinians peaceful nature.

How many civilians did Israel intend to kill? As many as they could get away with to be honest. They are aggressive to Palestinians in the West Bank, demolish their homes, restrict their travel and generally make their lives a misery. Quite simply, they want rid through whatever means necessary. To believe otherwise is naive in the extreme. There are plenty of examples of knesset members calling for genocide, just go look for them.
 
I disagree. Hamas has a massive influence with the people of Palestine due to it's stance against Israel, it's consultative councils, military wing and social welfare programs. Influence is power.




Suicide bombings. Rockets into civilian areas, kidnapping and murdering innocent Israeli kids. Using human shields. Need I go on ?

Israel has done all of that and much much more and on a grander scale, so would you class Israel as a terror state? Afterall it is a state founded by terrorists using terror tactics, has been run by terrorists and still uses the same tactics to this day.
 
I don't and you would be foolish to think otherwise.

I think you would though, so the "Apocalypse" can take place and the second coming of Jesus can be instigated to save every soul from sin, after all that is the reason why Christian Zionists so vehemently support Israel.
 
Sorry I am probably confusing myself :) Its been a long day and I got very little work done...

Do you think Iran would change or Do you think they would use nukes?

I do not know. I just know Israel, it's people and teachings beckons no harm to it's neighbours. The same can not be said for the Arab states who continually call for the destruction of Big Satan and Little Satan. Namely the U.S. and Israel.

I believe we are very close to the prophecies in Ezekiel 38.
Look at the countries outlined in there and the current situation and how things are alining. Also the fact Israel only became a state again in 1948 for the first time in 2,900 years fullfilling many prophecies.

Amazing days we live in.
 
Israel has done all of that and much much more and on a grander scale, so would you class Israel as a terror state? Afterall it is a state founded by terrorists using terror tactics, has been run by terrorists and still uses the same tactics to this day.

Simply a reaction to Israeli illegal actions.

if America didn't protect Israel at the UN they would likely both be living in peace by now but instead Israel kept taking more and more land they were never supposed to settle in because it was meant to to be Palestinian territory.


Surely everyone must see prolonging all the BS like netanyahu wants because it gets him votes is never going to solve anything
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especially when Israel still builds new settlements which the UN condemns as illegal or would if one America vote wasn't worth more than 14 votes from other countries


North korea and gaza must be the only 2 prisons in the world where you don't get convicted of a crime other than being born there
 
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I think you would though, so the "Apocalypse" can take place and the second coming of Jesus can be instigated to save every soul from sin, after all that is the reason why Christian Zionists so vehemently support Israel.

Islam belives Jesus will return also.
 
I do not know. I just know Israel, it's people and teachings beckons no harm to it's neighbours. The same can not be said for the Arab states who continually call for the destruction of Big Satan and Little Satan. Namely the U.S. and Israel.

I believe we are very close to the prophecies in Ezekiel 38.
Look at the countries outlined in there and the current situation and how things are alining. Also the fact Israel only became a state again in 1948 for the first time in 2,900 years fullfilling many prophecies.

Amazing days we live in.

You will have to forgive me I place no faith in a work of fiction. (Pun intended).
 
You will have to forgive me I place no faith in a work of fiction. (Pun intended).

The work of fiction that predicted that Israel would regain the land God gave to them. Who were exiled from it for 2,900 years, I find that a minor miracle.

Have you looked at the Ezekiel 38 armies prophecied before the end? Russia, Iran, Turkey and allies coming against Israel.

Also the fact that Damascus has to become a ruinous city right before the end?

Do you honestly say you can not feel anything afoot?
 
What about the prince that was promised/Azor Ahai ?

Is he kind of like Flash Gordon?

"Flash! ah-ahh!
Savior of the Universe!
Flash! ah-ahh!
He'll save everyone of us!
Flash! ah-ahh!
He's a miracle!
Flash! ah-ahh!
King of the impossible!"
 
The work of fiction that predicted that Israel would regain the land God gave to them. Who were exiled from it for 2,900 years, I find that a minor miracle.

Have you looked at the Ezekiel 38 armies prophecied before the end? Russia, Iran, Turkey and allies coming against Israel.

Also the fact that Damascus has to become a ruinous city right before the end?

Do you honestly say you can not feel anything afoot?

Afraid not I am not impressed by prophecies. I have no time for Religion either. I prefer facts not fiction. And if you throw enough crap some will stick.
 
Afraid not I am not impressed by prophecies. I have no time for Religion either. I prefer facts not fiction. And if you throw enough crap some will stick.

So if Iran and Russia do come against Israel, without any defence from the U.S.A., will you not raise an eyelid.
It is uncertain in scriptures why the U.S.A. does not aide.

The fact is this is prophecised to happen sometime after Israel has re-gathered in her land, which only started in 1948. Is Netanyahu not calling all to return?
 
How exactly is iran a threat though? I would say that Argentina is probably more of a threat than iran. Unless I am missing something vital. If jews want their sacred magic land back then they are going to have to deal with the consequences of that. They have the support from the west if arab countries tried anything. I don't realy see why it has to be a central part of isreal philosophy. I get the feeling from isreal that they live in a perpetual state of terrorist fever. Sure they deal with some incidents like the bus stabbing and so on. The politics uses that fear though for political gain. This terrorist fever has spread to the west. While in the past the authorities just dealt with incidents without over reacting and having to create massive defense and industries around it. They just deal with it, think ira or similar. This terrorist defense industries mentality i think comes about as a result of isreal mentality. It is because they live in that terrorist fever they try and bring the whole west in to it with them. From UK perspective i don't see iran as a threat, i see Argentina as a larger threat at this point to be honest. Isreal need to just get on with their country like the rest of people instead of living in a terrorist fever, they bring the fear on themselves. They need to turn the other cheek to it or take the moral high ground with terrorist. Instead they talk about "the future of their country", isreali are always in this state of fear. They have what they wanted which is their own country, now get on with it.
 
So if Iran and Russia do come against Israel, without any defence from the U.S.A., will you not raise an eyelid.
It is uncertain in scriptures why the U.S.A. does not aide.

The fact is this is prophecised to happen sometime after Israel has re-gathered in her land, which only started in 1948. Is Netanyahu not calling all to return?


Well the IDF might have to actually fight that will be a novel thing for them... :)

No I told you I do not believe anything any holy books say... They are the work of man and fallible. I know you are struggling and you are really trying to convince me but its not going to happen.

Think on this if god exists then I call him petty and childish. As we are all supposed to be equal in gods eyes? Why pick one group above all others?

I am sure there are people in the Iranian and Russian army who would believe god is on their side.
 
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