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Glad to see PowerTap have diversified. I kind of thought they were trading towards a slow death with their hub based PMs. Pedal based I'm kind of meh on, given the price, I don't see any real major advantages over crank based. Personally I find swapping cranks less painful than pedals.

I like the look of the chainring one though. Very smart to eliminate the actual crank, meaning for most people its as good as universal across all sorts of actual cranksets. Surely they'll offer a 130bcd option in time, although personally I doubt I'll ever change from 110bcd and compact/semi-compact.
 
Glad to see PowerTap have diversified. I kind of thought they were trading towards a slow death with their hub based PMs. Pedal based I'm kind of meh on, given the price, I don't see any real major advantages over crank based. Personally I find swapping cranks less painful than pedals.

I like the look of the chainring one though. Very smart to eliminate the actual crank, meaning for most people its as good as universal across all sorts of actual cranksets. Surely they'll offer a 130bcd option in time, although personally I doubt I'll ever change from 110bcd and compact/semi-compact.

Only 5 bolt cranksets, though...
 
So... Some guy drafted me for part of the ride in this morning. They of course didn't say a word of thanks.

Kind of amusing though - they show up as having ridden with me and you can see all the PRs over the section where they drafted.

https://www.strava.com/activities/269488285

Haha - nice. Annoys me a bit when people do that, mainly because I don't want someone of unknown competence inches from my back wheel and also because it's a bit antisocial to not say hello...

Not sold on the crank one myself...

Compact cranks only, but you can't fit a 34T.... Not sure how it works with your current crankset or replaces it, but you have to use their chainrings too.

The crankset based one looks pretty good to me - the only downside being the FSA chainrings I've used in the past have been crap. Really like the idea of using your existing crank.

I'm guessing $699 will translate into £500 at least though which makes the 4iiii meter look more appealing. The limitation of that though is it doesn't work with my existing crank since its carbon. So many trade-offs with PMs!
 
Haha - nice. Annoys me a bit when people do that, mainly because I don't want someone of unknown competence inches from my back wheel and also because it's a bit antisocial to not say hello...

The crankset based one looks pretty good to me - the only downside being the FSA chainrings I've used in the past have been crap. Really like the idea of using your existing crank.

I'm guessing $699 will translate into £500 at least though which makes the 4iiii meter look more appealing. The limitation of that though is it doesn't work with my existing crank since its carbon. So many trade-offs with PMs!

Yeah, it's a shame about the carbon crank thing with the 4iiii. Hopefully they'll sort that out eventually. Gives me an excuse to save cash and stick with ultegra cranks on my new bike though...

Yeah, I was a bit concerned about him going into the back of me, especially given that I have relatively decent disc brakes. Once I realised he was there I just made sure I slowed down..er..slowly.

The only solution to a drafting fairy is to drop them, hard.

There's only so fast you can go with all the red lights and traffics. If I'd had to stop less I might have been able to drop him I guess :)
 
It's not just 4iiii that doesn't work with carbon, I don't think Stages can offer a meter on a carbon crank. It may even be technically impossible, due to the way carbon deforms.
 
It's not just 4iiii that doesn't work with carbon, I don't think Stages can offer a meter on a carbon crank. It may even be technically impossible, due to the way carbon deforms.

Correct, it doesn't deform in the same elastic manner as metal in a way which can be replicated and measured to give a power figure.
 
^Interesting, did not know that. I'm sure 4iiii said it was something to do with adhesive potentially damaging the carbon resin over time too.

To do with the layup of the carbon too, you can't guarantee every product to be identical, but a metal will be.

Had a proper look at the power meter now. I think the lack of a 34T and being tied to FSA rings is an oversight, as well as only 110bcd 5 arm spiders. Price is good however.

Pedals, meh, battery life seems quite short and a little heavy and expensive.


At our club we have people with SRM, Quarq, Stages, Vectors, Rotor and Powertap.

The only people who've had problems have been the vector users, broken pods and dead on arrival units.
 
I read a lot on various forums about people having battery trouble with the Stages ones. Water ingress, faulty battery covers and battery draining overnight.
 
Had my bike stolen from my conservatory this evening. Absolutely livid.

While I was in the house and my dog didn't make a noise.

Sorry to hear that dude!

I always lock the doors when I'm in or out, my Mrs doesn't understand why, this is why!

I hope you get everything sorted!
 
To do with the layup of the carbon too, you can't guarantee every product to be identical, but a metal will be.

Had a proper look at the power meter now. I think the lack of a 34T and being tied to FSA rings is an oversight, as well as only 110bcd 5 arm spiders. Price is good however.

Pedals, meh, battery life seems quite short and a little heavy and expensive.


At our club we have people with SRM, Quarq, Stages, Vectors, Rotor and Powertap.

The only people who've had problems have been the vector users, broken pods and dead on arrival units.

When I was in spain, of a group of 10 cyclists, 8 of us used power, 7 had P2M and 1 had a stages. No issues among any of us, besides the stages knowingly overreading.

Still think Power2Max offers the best solution.
 
I read a lot on various forums about people having battery trouble with the Stages ones. Water ingress, faulty battery covers and battery draining overnight.
I read up on those faults before I got mine.
They have since updated the rubber seal on the battery cover and also updated the firmware so battery draining issues are no longer a problem.
 
Feel sorry for Andy Hawdon. He signed pro at the age of 38 last week, and in his first race at the Omloop van het Waasland at the weekend, he broke a collar bone, poor guy :/
 
I noticed while locking the door ironically. I thought my partner had put it outside as it normally lives on the back Garden which is sealed and it gets locked to a post.

Never thought it would stolen from inside, suspect it was a neighbour as there is no chance of being overlooked or I could have been followed home.

Stole my backpack and portable phone charger also :(

And my GoPro, Damn it! :(

Gutted for you and really scary that someone would have the gall to do that when you where there! Really does sound targetted! Any of your neighbours got CCTV towards the back garden or anything like that? Defo worth reporting to Police too as someone targeting bikes in the area needs to be caught & local awareness raised!

So... Some guy drafted me for part of the ride in this morning. They of course didn't say a word of thanks.

Kind of amusing though - they show up as having ridden with me and you can see all the PRs over the section where they drafted.

https://www.strava.com/activities/269488285

Bike frwend.

Strava stalk him as he's very close to you - might spark up a friendship/local riding buddy! :)

Haha - nice. Annoys me a bit when people do that, mainly because I don't want someone of unknown competence inches from my back wheel and also because it's a bit antisocial to not say hello...

Agreed, quite annoying he didn't say hey or 'thanks for the tow'! But then again I don't always say 'hello' when I overtake someone.

Majority of riders on my morning commute I see most mornings and like to say "morning!" to when I overtake, 60% probably shout 'morning' back. Majority of others going the other way get a nod as no point shouting over passing traffic! :rolleyes:

Occasionally say 'evening' on the commutes home but that really depends on how I'm feeling/what the weathers doing/how they're riding. Riders who don't pavement hop/drain dodge/red light run I will always try to say hello to. The ones not wearing helmets/no lights in the dark/unsafe riding I tend to ignore and just drop them asap (see below).

I don't draft anyone. I drop every last one of them. :cool:;)

Then again I've done *no* (ok, only 1) group riding, coming from solo riding/commuting I found it very hard to ride on a wheel, mostly through nerves and lack of 'speed judgement' I guess?

What I'm trying to say is - anyone who can draft/ride on a wheel well will in theory be experienced enough to do it safely. It's a skill you only really get from riding in a group/chain-gang.

There's only so fast you can go with all the red lights and traffics. If I'd had to stop less I might have been able to drop him I guess :)

I think that's the thing, Mondays commute home I overtook 2, one was a drain dodger and filtered through traffic on the left (dangerous!). The second was a pavement hopper (Annoying & dangerous!).

I stopped at a busy roundabout in traffic, they both 'got past' (undertook -pavement/cutting up left signalling cars). I dropped both again, stopped at a red light and they both jumped it/traffic by undertaking a second time. I had to wait in traffic to filter through the lights so gave chase after a turn-off and nearly caught one up again. Turned off/back into filtering in traffic and he pavement rode away from me... Fustrating! :o:(:rolleyes::mad:

I'd like to think I have more respect on the road as I filter/overtake on the right, stop at lights and take primary. In reality drivers *have* to give me room, the others I hope they just get annoyed at! They're the ones who give us a 'bad name' after all ;)
 
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So... Some guy drafted me for part of the ride in this morning. They of course didn't say a word of thanks.

Kind of amusing though - they show up as having ridden with me and you can see all the PRs over the section where they drafted.

https://www.strava.com/activities/269488285

This happened to me not long ago. I used FlyBy and it turned out he lived next door. See him quite regularly on the way to work now, but he never speaks :S
 
I've ordered a new frame, a Giant Propel.

Should have it some time next week, probably Thursday as I'm on half day and I'll be able to go to the shop to collect.

First bike I've had with internal cable routing, is there anything special I need to buy when getting new cables?

Also, my current handle bars are carbon and not good for mounting aero bars on. Any one have any handlebar recommendations or are they all pretty much the same?
 
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Then again I've done *no* (ok, only 1) group riding, coming from solo riding/commuting I found it very hard to ride on a wheel, mostly through nerves and lack of 'speed judgement' I guess?

What I'm trying to say is - anyone who can draft/ride on a wheel well will in theory be experienced enough to do it safely. It's a skill you only really get from riding in a group/chain-gang.

I'd strongly disagree and err on the side of caution. Assume everyone else is an idiot until they prove otherwise.

For example, we had a guy try and jump on the back of our saturday morning fast club run the other week uninvited. He obviously didn't really have the group riding experience or fitness, and lo and behold when there was some pace variation in the bunch he clipped into someone's back wheel and came down hard. Nearly took two others down in the process. He was ok apart from some cuts and grazes, but suffice to say he got a wee word from some of the more vocal folk in the bunch.

I wouldn't trust anyone on my wheel i didn't invite.
 
I ride in a smallish group fairly regularly, and people will often follow a foot or so apart. You have to be paying attention the whole time to make sure the person in front isn't slowing down, or changing line, or whatever, because there really isn't a lot of reaction time at that distance. The person in front also has to make their intentions clear, so if they're stopping or slowing they should say so.

It's definitely not something to be taken lightly, and I agree that I wouldn't necessarily trust someone behind me if I didn't know their abilities by experience, and I'd definitely be more vocal about what I was going to do.
 
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