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Thanks for your reply slinxy.

So I was just about to order a batch of 100% pg on your advice but just as I was going to click send I had a look at the ingredients on the bottle I already have. Well imagine my surprise when I look through the list and it doesn't list VG at all! I know the the e-liquids I bought on the internet a while back were 70/30 but it turns out the shop I've been getting from that's down the road are only PG! So essentially I seem to be already at the optimum for what I want.

That said, it does pose another question. If I want more of a hit I up the volts, but this tends to taste burnt or blazes through coils quicker. Am I right in thinking that if I went for a subtank setup, but not as far as sub ohming, I would be able to up the watts without burning? Or is this simply the limit of the e-liquid itself?
 
V_R said:
So PB and Dmitri visit the clone factory...
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That looks interesting, I'll watch it later, thanks!

Talking of clones... I just spent 20 minutes sanding and polishing the crunchy button on my Stingray and it is so much better, crisp and smooth it's like a new mod.
 
Lil old me said:
Thanks for your reply slinxy.

So I was just about to order a batch of 100% pg on your advice but just as I was going to click send I had a look at the ingredients on the bottle I already have. Well imagine my surprise when I look through the list and it doesn't list VG at all! I know the the e-liquids I bought on the internet a while back were 70/30 but it turns out the shop I've been getting from that's down the road are only PG! So essentially I seem to be already at the optimum for what I want.

That said, it does pose another question. If I want more of a hit I up the volts, but this tends to taste burnt or blazes through coils quicker. Am I right in thinking that if I went for a subtank setup, but not as far as sub ohming, I would be able to up the watts without burning? Or is this simply the limit of the e-liquid itself?
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I don't honestly think many juices are just PG, as hardly anyone would buy them, it's what gives the vape the smoothness and clouds.. I have picked up bottles of odd juices when I've been on the go from odd vape shops that was very close to 100% but 70/30 is about a standard mix for common noobie (sorry) juices.

The burt taste is down to coil design, it means that the coil is not getting enough juice to it. The coil in the subtank is a different beast all together the cotton in it is about the same size as your whole atomizer head and wicks a hell lot better due to the size of the holes. The issue with the standard heads for the kanger tanks is that there's very little space so they get clogged up very easily. You can simply try flushing them with water and dry burning the junk off it.. Again videos on YouTube. Just don't in hale the flumes when dry burning or try dry burning cotton based heads.

So far you have kinda been protected for a true dry hit as kanger uses silca in their normal heads, which is very hard to burn.. Getting a dry hit on a cotton based build; now that **** hurts. Lol

You need tend to need more volts when using lower coils as the coils take longer to heat up and produce vapour. For me I vape at around 14 watts normally but with a subtank I'm around 25 watts on the 0.5 coil. From the more juice and more power it makes more vaper and that's why most of use need to lung hit when sub ohming (any ohm below 1 ohm is considered sub ohming). If you can't or don't like lung hitting, which is totally different from smoking! It's pointless getting a subtank, you mouth will be pretty much full of air and not much vapour and flavour.

Have a look at the beyond vape silo, I prefer it as a 'normal' tank compared to subtank for everyday use.. The flavour is much better mouth to lung, the biggest hole is good enough to try some straight lung hits and the design of the coil (BVC) means they tend to last longer. Going from a pro tank to a subtank is going from the two common market poles of vaping, try something in the middle first. :)
 
Great, thanks!

Haha don't mind being a noobie, gotta start somewhere :D

Not sure I've ever properly lung hit as the burn taste dissuades me from upping the volts and getting loads of vaper, plus who knows how much VG I have now?!

I think I get you, so I really want to be looking at BVC coils for an upgrade, rather than a subtank. Too much jargon in this hobby! Just so I've got a point of relative comparison, would the Kanger aerotank mega be similar to the beyond vape silo? As in a similar level of product?
 
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you wont be able to lung hit at all with the aero mega.. it's about the same size airflow as the smallest hole in the subtank, but the coil design on the subtank makes it far to airly for me to mouth to lung on the subtank. obviously this is just IMHO. The coils on the aero are very similar to the pro and it's a miles better tank but the silo is on another level! youtube todd's silo review.

the largest air hole on the silo is about the same as the middle one on the subtank.

I'll upload some photos when my photo is charged.. lol

http://www.provapes.co.uk/products/beyond-vape-silo-tank
http://www.provapes.co.uk/collections/mods/products/eleaf-istick-30w-silver <- if your looking for a new battery,

if you can get the 50w istick.. its 4400 mah, that last me about 5-7 days vaping normally. Oh just one thing, you can't sub ohm (yet?) on the silo as the coils don't go that low.

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All three tanks with there maximum air flow...

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Max air hole on the silo vs the kanger subtank 2nd largest.
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Damnnn just thought I'd experiment to try make a decent dual coil for my mech mod for decent battery life but still a cloud chucker.

Used 24g kanthal 2mm diamiter 8 wraps, came out 0.35 ohms, was aiming for 0.5 but didn't check steam engine first just made it.

And damn it chucks! Iv not used a 2mm coil in absolutely ages but it's actually fantastic haha. Might make a few more builds with smaller coils they chuck nicely! A lot better for my mech mod. And the ramp up time cause the coils not as bigger diamiter it's great, should get more battery life rather than waiting for a 3mm coil to heat up anyway
 
IceShock said:
Damnnn just thought I'd experiment to try make a decent dual coil for my mech mod for decent battery life but still a cloud chucker.

Used 24g kanthal 2mm diamiter 8 wraps, came out 0.35 ohms, was aiming for 0.5 but didn't check steam engine first just made it.

And damn it chucks! Iv not used a 2mm coil in absolutely ages but it's actually fantastic haha. Might make a few more builds with smaller coils they chuck nicely! A lot better for my mech mod. And the ramp up time cause the coils not as bigger diamiter it's great, should get more battery life rather than waiting for a 3mm coil to heat up anyway
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0.5 is what I tend to aim for... I was sub-ohming at work next to a little old lady smoking, she went "Didn't that little thing produce a lot of smoke!", I said "That's what all the ladies say..." lol
 
slinxy said:
0.5 is what I tend to aim for... I was sub-ohming at work next to a little old lady smoking, she went "Didn't that little thing produce a lot of smoke!", I said "That's what all the ladies say..." lol
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Haha :D

I was walking through town the other day on a really windy day with my sigelei box at 80w on my custom dripper iv made, my biggest cloud chucker in other words.

And it was a really windy day wind was blowing from behind me blowing forwards and I was walking along, blew a huge cloud and the wind took it forward and about 10 people turned around as a huge vape cloud blew past there heads and they was like what the **** was that?? And I even reconned to turn around and look aswell, was absolutely creasing up laughing inside tho :D
 
I honestly can't get over how much this 2mm coil is chucking though it's almost chuckin as good as the 3mm coil. It's friggin great, even with a almost flat battery in my mech mod it's chucking loads, it's firing great even when the battery's dropped down to 3.5v or lower. Think Im going to make 2mm coils all time for my mechs now, cause the effect of the drop from 4.2 to 3.5 well you don't notice it half as much at all.

Also since iv been making my own liquids I love any flavour now and vaping, I can't believe I went 2 years vaping only ry4 flavour, I mean I absolutely loved it, but it's rank now I tried it other day and Christ I could taste tobacco in it I couldn't taste tobacco before from it but now I can.

Just tried some blueberry flavour that my missus vapes I used to hate it but now I like it! What's happened to me :p
 
Just grabbed a Vaporshark RDNA 40. Got some temp sensing coils for my sub tanks, will give them a go later- but mostly got it as it's a top notch VW device.
 
What's my next step?

Over the last week I've purchased 3 tanks, all genuine kanger - aerotank v2, aerotank turbo and subtank nano.

Aerotank v2: great to start with, lots of cloud and flavour, a few days in it got weaker, dry hits, changed coil twice to no avail. Air control valve has also got stuck. Doesn't respond well over 12w.

Aerotank turbo: absolute monster, it dwarfs my 30w istick, nice Flavours and vapour production, hits 30w easily and could probably do with a touch more!

Subtank nano: at first I hated it, vapour as hot as the sun at 15w, narrowed it down to my choice of liquid, 6mg 100% pg dekang, put it on some 6mg 50/50 cherry menthol yesterday and I love it to bits, 30w no problem.

So my next step is going to be a larger tank sub ohm setup, going to grab the 50w istick, should I just jump over to the regular subtank or perhaps something like the delta II which I've been hearing good things about?
 
pgi947 said:
What's my next step?

Over the last week I've purchased 3 tanks, all genuine kanger - aerotank v2, aerotank turbo and subtank nano.

Aerotank v2: great to start with, lots of cloud and flavour, a few days in it got weaker, dry hits, changed coil twice to no avail. Air control valve has also got stuck. Doesn't respond well over 12w.

Aerotank turbo: absolute monster, it dwarfs my 30w istick, nice Flavours and vapour production, hits 30w easily and could probably do with a touch more!

Subtank nano: at first I hated it, vapour as hot as the sun at 15w, narrowed it down to my choice of liquid, 6mg 100% pg dekang, put it on some 6mg 50/50 cherry menthol yesterday and I love it to bits, 30w no problem.

So my next step is going to be a larger tank sub ohm setup, going to grab the 50w istick, should I just jump over to the regular subtank or perhaps something like the delta II which I've been hearing good things about?
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I would say the Subtank Mini, I have got the original subtank & its just too big plus it looks horrible on my mods due to its larger diameter.

I bought a subtank mini last Friday night from my local vape shop & cant put the thing down, plenty of vapour & flavour, bearing in mind that I have got a squape reloaded, kayfun lite & a Kayfun 4 sitting here on my desk .

Great value for money too :)

Cheers all
 
That's a good point, think I'll go for the mini then, plus it will give me a chance to see what all the fuss is about with RBA :)
 
pgi947 said:
That's a good point, think I'll go for the mini then, plus it will give me a chance to see what all the fuss is about with RBA :)
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Yes due to its size it hangs over the edge of the istick 30 & 50, plus it has a horrible looking adaptor ring thingy.

Only been using the rba, which is very similar to a Kayfun deck, it comes pre coiled with a 0.5 ohm coil from the factory, all you need to to is wick it, there is a wad of cotton included in the box too plus a spare glass tank & other goodies :)

Running a 1.2 ohm coil in mine and it vapes like a trooper.

Cheers all
 
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pgi947 said:
What's my next step?
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Few choices here. For mainline tanks I'd go subtank mini. That's the best tank kanger make, and aspire cant match it.

You could also look at Kayfun types, they aren't cloud machines - but easy to live with and get good taste.

Going the other way is dripper time. Drippers are great but it's fairly high maintenance.
 
roman59 said:
Yes due to its size it hangs over the edge of the istick 30 & 50, plus it has a horrible looking adaptor ring thingy.

Only been using the rba, which is very similar to a Kayfun deck, it comes pre coiled with a 0.5 ohm coil from the factory, all you need to to is wick it, there is a wad of cotton included in the box too plus a spare glass tank & other goodies :)

Running a 1.2 ohm coil in mine and it vapes like a trooper.

Cheers all
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I've actually just stuck the 1.2ohm coil that comes with the nano in, all the vapor and flavour none of the heat :) Just a shame I put some 11mg juice in and its a little strong.

Does it hang over as much as this beast?

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kohlditz said:
Few choices here. For mainline tanks I'd go subtank mini. That's the best tank kanger make, and aspire cant match it.

You could also look at Kayfun types, they aren't cloud machines - but easy to live with and get good taste.

Going the other way is dripper time. Drippers are great but it's fairly high maintenance.
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I've always wanted to try a dripper but its just not convenient enough for me to use at work.

I'll get the mini ordered along side the 50w istick, probably some 1.2ohm coils to try with other liquids too.

Kayfun generally expensive but worth it? I see the V4 is the best part of £120!

Been buying loads lately but its nice to try out all these other tanks and vaping styles :D
 
oldestgregg said:
Any one got a billet box? I fancy one but I'm unsure if I will appreciate it. They look damn sexy anyways!
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Don't do it mate... I've seen that ad. I've not got one but I just think it's a hell lot of money for something that's not that special, there's F5 wars on their website on the 15 March. And quite frankly prefer the looks and design of the e grip.

Depending on how the MOT goes, I may place an order for MM vapers box mod, I was looking at it the other day, can't believe I missed out on that one..
 
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