Jeremy Clarkson suspended from BBC

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Well there we go. They are all off. Now who's going to sign them up.

May has done a couple of other things with the BBC, watchable stuff purely because its James May and he's a good presenter in his own right.

Hammond has done stuff for the BBC and commercial TV, i think he can stay at home.

Don't think there is anything really keeping them at the BBC, they may all move to commercial.

The BBC may try to get TG going again, no doubt a politically correct version of it as thats unavoidable now.
It will crash and burn almost immediately.

The BBC have no talent or will to do what Top Gear was, there are pepole in its hierarchy who are convinced themselves that a Pink, Fluffy all nicely nice version of Top Gear will be successful and they will fight hard to get their way.
which they will, and that will be its downfall.
 
Shame about Clarkson but my main worry is that the BBC have all these Directors/Executives/Managers on over £200k a year!!

JC will come out of this fine, while the BBC should be questioned regarding that TV licence money they continue to waste.
 
This wasn't really a shouting match though was it?

It was for about 30 mins before the punch

It was physical until a bystander intervened and then it was just verbal abuse from one side with no reply from the other.

That's right

This went way above a shouting match or a telling off and sorry I don't see where you're getting the information that it must have been deliberate just to get a reaction. There's absolutely no mention of this nor any proof to back this up.

No it's just my opinion, i have no proof, expect for the fact that it was such a monumental mistake that it was deliberate or just didn't give a toss, either way the only reason he still has a job was because he was punched. If it just was a verbal trade he would have been out the door
 
Fifth Gear has sunk to a new low & is now on the History channel.

It had more gears than viewers.

I liked the five one, one of the presenters had a genuine racing background and reviewed on that basis so some parts were better even, TG is more showy

dream job

I always thought he owned it like how Chris Evans produced his own shows, maybe not but he'll probably be fine elsewhere
 
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Of course, but work colleagues / friends and other people can always over hear things which were not meant for them to hear. People will choose to be offended, sometimes on behalf of others - which is even worse.

There are ways to behave in public, but then there are people who also stick their nose in other people's business which is not helpful.



I think we're in agreement and talking at cross purposes here, most people know how to behave in front of others (those with a modicum of social skills at any rate). However, if someone slips up, they shouldn't be demonised for it or people shouldn't be out for blood just because of an innocent mistake.

Even for the nursery rhyme - as I said, even I was taught it as a child (a long time ago) it was a generational thing, and it was just a rhyme that existed - of course it is wrong to continue it, but when it's embedded into you, like tying a shoelace it is hard to unlearn. Does it make him racist for doing it? No of course not - it makes him a bit daft not to be more careful about what he is saying in front of the camera, but then again it could have been handled/edited better, and you know what? He stopped himself from saying it. In fact the majority of the black population responded that they saw no offence in the comment and it was out of context anyway.

My parents generation talk about "coloured" people - they didn't know any better until they're told they can't say it any more. There are a plethora of terms and things that have changed so much and so quickly over the past generation that people will slip up and this is important WITH NO INTENT to offend. Heck, even the Golliwog symbol on Roberstons jam was a big fracas (;)) over nothing.

I suggest that if you find that sort of stuff unacceptable you never go to a comedy show! Comedians are not decent people by your definition!!

Clarkson is a mature, educated man. He should not be 'making mistakes' or 'slip ups' with what he's saying at that age, and of that intelligence (not to mention his production team, but that's a lot to do with how Clarkson sells himself). He also works in the media and should know what can and cannot be said.

A young person saying those things? maybe.

I love how you come to this conclusion :D. I have worked the Dave Comedy festival for a few years and go to quite a lot of shows. I do not think a comedian needs to be offensive to be funny. I accept that things are said within context but even still, a comedian whom relies on being offensive is a rubbish comedian.

Yes and everyone knows what people mean by chivalry - being a gentleman. Not your dictionary definition.

It literally is not a dictionary definition :p, there is little to do with women in the Chivalric code.
 
Here comes the social media wave...

There is a slight point, North Yorkshire police have asked for a copy of the report. If the police forces were that assiduous over other reported and unreported crimes, I would applaud their reaction. As it is I think they are going after low hanging fruit and ignore other things too difficult to process.
 
Clarkson is a mature, educated man. He should not be 'making mistakes' or 'slip ups' with what he's saying at that age, and of that intelligence (not to mention his production team, but that's a lot to do with how Clarkson sells himself). He also works in the media and should know what can and cannot be said.

What part of the aging process makes you infallible?
 
What part of the aging process makes you infallible?

Educated, mature person should know what can and cannot be said in public or what is considered offensive.

There is a production team behind him too, it's more to do with how Clarkson markets himself to the world though rather than making 'mistakes'.
 
I used to like Top Gear back in the day.

I can watch it every now and again, but over the last years it has become insufferable in anything but small doses. Clarkson is a **** and Hammond worse. James May is a bit of a **** but shines in the sunlight of not being either of the two.

I like the cars. I sometimes like the challenges, but I can't even get on with the stars in the cars because they always end up chatting all matey with Clarkson instead of telling him to go **** himself.
 
The absolute worst (in my humble opinion) part of the show was always the 'Star in the reasonably priced car', or as I called it 'time to get a drink'.
 
Good odds on this...

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haha excellent :D
 
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