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Airbus A320 Crashes in Alps
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The take off seemed to be on the coast, so they flew a short flight over water, then inland, so I think possibly at the earliest oppotinity, IE when the pilot left the cockpit
Judging by map distance alone, the path before the crash looks about the same map distance between London and somewhere over west wales
Judging by map distance alone, the path before the crash looks about the same map distance between London and somewhere over west wales
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I suspect the policy around numbers in the flight deck will be changed to make it so that there isn't a single occupancy during the flight. Apparently some companies already have this policy, Lufthansa, though, do not.
Because of a flaw in a system and a pilot that had intentions, yes.
To be honest I couldnt care about who that pilot is that ditched it, utter discraceful to take that approach, what ever his intentions may have been or what ever his background may have been
OK, so a recent jihadist convert then?
That is truly chilling
If it is, the I would expect that security inside the cockpit, would be looked at more carefully should this situation ever happen again. They need to ensure of a way that if by the slim chance that a pilot is locked out, and the current commanding pilot was to override any re-entry, there is a failsafe.
You would say "but when would this ever happen"
Well, it just happened.
but a failsafe is exploitable by a hijacker
ditch pilots
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You would have to agree, as they had only just got to their cruising altitude of 38k feet, at which stage the captain goes to the bog as in theory everything should be set for a while.
but a failsafe is exploitable by a hijacker
ditch pilots
Then they are going to have to live with things like this happening, im sure there is a solution to it, which will keep both sides safe, but it will have to be thought of carefully and the pro's/con's of an amendment, and thorough risk analysis.
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Obviously not easy to break down cockpit doors then
It is designed after 9/11 to withstand gun fire and even a grenade.
If a grenade goes off I don't think it's the door you'll have to worry about.
It is law in the US, but all this does is mean you'll get the nutters training as cabin crew (which takes less than 6 months as opposed to over 2 years and £120k) and get into the cockpit that way. Much easier.
Really? There is no over-ride by the cabin crew to get in to the cockpit.
If it wasn't so tragic it would be laughable. Genuinely WTF!
There is. It's designed for cases of pilot incapacitation. If there was a way to get in from the outside no matter what, it would be exploited by anyone (your standard terrorist) trying to get in.
not really you can chose to make it secure from outside threats or secure from inside threats you cant really do both.
Obviously not easy to break down cockpit doors then
As stupid as it sound the cockpit door is practically impenetrable!
If someone is hellbent on doing what the co-pilot has done in this situation then they will find alternative methods and workarounds to doing son. There is a hell of a lot of trust placed in pilots but you only think about that after something like this happens.
Really? There is no over-ride by the cabin crew to get in to the cockpit.
If it wasn't so tragic it would be laughable. Genuinely WTF!
Due to terrorism you can't. The cabin crew would then be a target for them to force access. The pilot or co-pilot must always grant / deny it.
Really? There is no over-ride by the cabin crew to get in to the cockpit.
If it wasn't so tragic it would be laughable. Genuinely WTF!
well say im a terrorist, we're on a plane in the middle of the Atlantic, you're the cabin crew member who knows the over ride to get into he cockpit, we've got hours together; you, us terrorists, the nice innocent children on the plane.
how long would you keep that over ride hidden when i start doing terrorist stuff or having the sweet little 6 year old girl and her mother beg you to give me the code or i'll do more terrorist stuff?
seriously how long do you think you'd last?
A bit graphic Tefal. Felt it was best to edit it - Rilot
There is. However it doesn't take into account that the only other person you trust to fly the plane and allowed in the cockpit is the one person that wants to crash the plane, and is blocking the over-ride.
Ugh little grusome description for a family forum no?