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I said nothing about guitar technique, or her guitar tone

I've never said anything about her guitar playing her actual live singing voice. Find me an example of where she uses:

Greater than 2 octave range
Accurate pitch control
Accurate and appropriate intonation
Rich tone with vibrancy and vibrato
etc

You know the things good vocalists can do. Should be easy for you to find that as she is so "talented". ;)
 
No, I am saying she put in the ground work like everyone else, went to local radio stations and handed out CDs in person, begged the DJ to play her track etc.

Her dad didn't give her the air time, you made it sounded like he did.

no he just funded a record company as long as she was their first artist.
 
I'm quite diverse in my taste in music, but if I heard a taylor swift song on the radio I wouldn't know it was her.
But then I do see a lot of today's pop music as overly manufactured noise that's so bland it fails to make any real impression.
Good test of music that makes an impression = goosebumps.

Oh, and I'm aware of kim's arse, abut that's about all I know about her, or care to know.

Are we to expect some kind of showdown with these two? Perhaps in a pool with syrup or something.... it's just a suggestion :p I'll take nominees for the referee, but to get the ball rolling, how about Katy Perry?
 
I've never said anything about her guitar playing her actual live singing voice. Find me an example of where she uses:

Greater than 2 octave range
Accurate pitch control
Accurate and appropriate intonation
Rich tone with vibrancy and vibrato
etc

You know the things good vocalists can do. Should be easy for you to find that as she is so "talented". ;)

I totally agree that she is not the greatest vocalist (never said she was) or guitarist or even dancer. I think everyone knows that, however, the talent isn't those, the talent is how to harness those together. You can say that's her manager's doing but there are singers out there who arguably is a better guitarist or singer or dancer, signed to big record labels but disappears after a couple of albums...Christina Aguilera anyone?

Her strength is her song writing, something a lot of singers don't have or even control over.

no he just funded a record company as long as she was their first artist.

True. That still doesn't automatically translate success. There are plenty of examples of break out artist recorded in nothing more than a bedroom studio or there are plenty of major record label backed singers that gets only 15 mins of fame.


I am guessing you are not a 10 year old girl then.
 
I have nothing to add, i just wanted to say thank you:D

It's my pleasure. Unfortunately I to break it my little girl that Taylor Swift is not on Spotify so if she wanted to listen to her we'd have to watch the videos on YouTube. I've neglected to tell her Katy Perry is actually on Spotify but you know consistency is a good thing!
 
Her strength is her song writing, something a lot of singers don't have or even control over.

OK so fair enough you accept that actually playing she is not all that talented. So let's examine her song writing. Let's look at her most watched video on Youtube. It's the one I linked back there - Bland Space.

And yet:

Writer(s)
Taylor Swift Max Martin Shellback
Producer(s)
Max Martin Shellback

She wasn't the only writer at all ...

Let's have a look at this songwriting then she contributed towards;

Nice to meet you, where you been?
I could show you incredible things
Magic, madness, heaven, sin
Saw you there and I thought
Oh my God, look at that face
You look like my next mistake
Love's a game, wanna play?

Not All Along the Watchtower (yep Dylan wrote it before someone points out Hendrix didn't that was another post) is it really ... maybe the genius is in the actual composition then:

D > Bm > Em7 > G > A

Not really Satch Boogie is it?

So maybe it's the whole package ... ironically it does actually come back to the whole package. A sensationally (if skinny) good looking lass who's come from a privileged background and obviously worked hard. So actually her strengths are the two things you said she didn't need and condemned others for. She'd be nothing without her looks and she'd be nothing most likely without daddy's dollars.

Now there is nothing wrong with that and as the videos show she is a sensationally (if skinny) good looking lass and if you love her for it (and you clearly do) I would too if I were younger but tbh as much as she looks nice I'd still want to tuck her up and read her a bedtime story - far too young for me. So enjoy her you obviously do but don't confuse talented with privileged, determined, lucky, or popular.
 
I wouldn't pick either of them to be honest. Sure I wouldn't turn them down for a night, but they'd both probably be incredibly annoying to spend any sort of decent time around. If we're using them as examples of body images that men are attracted to then I'd probably go for something in between the two. Taylor Swift is too skinny, she has no curves at all, whereas Kim K has too much curve. A girl that curvy is inevitably going to get fat as she ages, and that's a massive issue for me.
 
..but she is as good as Hendrix in the way she inspire people to play guitar and sing.

But that's about all though, as far as I can see there aren't many good performers left out there at the highest level. I admit 'i'd tap dat', but when it comes to music, her stuff is just like a whining noise that needs turning off.

Kardashians are among the famous for being famous, so they're on my /ignore list. :p
 
This thread :rolleyes:

We're supposed to be talking about whether we would rather bang skinny or curvy.
kardashian ain;t curvy until the photo shop magic happens

there are fatter women than her in the world I would rather sleep so it's not that.

something about her is just so off putting and gross

then there's the other people the media keep trying to brainwash us about like cara looks like a boy devine
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not sure if born a man or transvestite.
there were some photos of her in a paper about a week ago where she literally looked like a member of "hanson" the people who did the MMMBop song in the 90s
 
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