High demand for Titan X exceed supply

[africanos23]

1. Removing DP has removed an awfully big plus point.

That's fair but it doesn't mean that if you use DP everyone else does

2. No LED in the fan area as shown, no light up Titan logo just a piece of chromed plastic.

It has a LED that lights up on the side Geforce GTX (not sure if it has other lights on OF Titans and Titan Blacks)

3. No back plate. On a card costing this much that is criminal given both the stock 970 and 980 have them.

If it doesn't help with cooling which has been mentioned I personally prefer it not to, than cook a porkchop in my case

4. 12gb. Really.

Yes really, 6GB is not enough (for the cards demographic) so its either 8GB or 12GB to future proof slightly more, even though you can't actually use it without running out of grunt (for one card). More memory is better - less swaps means smoother gameplay. (Proven on COD AW and Watch Dogs which I have tried)


EVERYTHING STATED IS MY OPINION

 

[wunkley]

Is everyone on their period today or something?

I'm not helping am I

 

[TNA]

Funny stuff... Calm down guys. No need to get offended about graphics cards of all things. Is the Titan X over priced? Absolutely.. (IMO) If someone chooses to pay for it, let them. Try to see the bright side of it, they are financing R&D into new 16nm tech

But ultimately we all have a certain disposable income, I could easily buy 4 titan x's right now, but then I could not go on my awesome holiday in summer, well I could, but it would be less awesome. For example if no titan x, said person could spend much more down the pub or something in the same period over a year, so to them titan x even at it's ludicrous price is a bargain

I personally have no issue someone buying titan x and flashing it about. As long as they don't go out of their way posting BS which happens sometimes then I am fine. Not that you need a titan x to do this, most people who don't even have one do it anyway. lol.

People getting bent out of shape over nothing here really. Chill bro's

 

[Tonester0011]

Would be absolute hell on if AMD released a card around the same performance and charged around the same price, we actually saw it with the 7970, although that was slightly faster than the 580, AMD charged a higher than their normal price for that, and so on every forum a going, there was massive threads on it, everyone slating AMD to absolute buggery for it.

I didn't think the price was *too bad* for the 7970 truth be told. Obviously after 12.11 they were worth their original purchase amount, just didn't help with Nvidia undercutting with the 680 whilst offering more bang

Though you got the usual suspects berating the faster 680 because the specs were lower

 

[ALXAndy]

That's fair but it doesn't mean that if you use DP everyone else does

Without DP... Heck, without a reasonable sensible reason to buy one they become nonsensical. To me, any way. And remember kids, I'm talking about the card here not those who bought them. There's a big difference.

It has a LED that lights up on the side Geforce GTX (not sure if it has other lights on OF Titans and Titan Blacks)

Titan and Titan black both had that. Titan X was clearly shown, and posh pictures show clearly, that both the Titan logo and the fan area lit up. I said before launch I was impressed with the Titan logo part as it would allow colour masking for modding. But no, piece of chromed plastic.

If it doesn't helping with cooling which has been mentioned I personally prefer it not to, than bake in my build

Now you're just making excuses for them. The 980 HOF has a back plate. Most other 980s have a back plate. Throughout the history of time some of the hottest, meanest GPUs have a back plate. Even the GTX 480 could be fitted with one !

The point I'm making is that for £900+ it should not be missing anything.

Had I bought one only to find that -

The box was some generic tat that any other GPU gets.
It was missing the LEDs etc

I would be upset. I certainly wouldn't try and excuse the fact that Nvidia were too mean to fit a ten pence white opal piece of acrylic and a 5 pence LED.

Yes really, 6GB is not enough (for the cards demographic) so its either 8GB or 12GB to future proof slightly more even though you can't actually use it without running out of grunt.

When Titan came out I laughed at 6gb. Little did I realise that the new consoles had a Radeon type GPU and the consoles themselves have access to 6gb of vram.

The Titan X is not a 4k card. You still need two of them, so putting that much VRAM on it is a oxy moron. It just doesn't make much sense.


AT LEAST the original cards had double precision, meaning those who wanted it could have it for less than a quarter of the price of admission for an equivalent of the Tesla. That alone gave it the right to be expensive AND carry a name like that.

As thus I think this particular Titan is a bit rubbish. TBH I think 99% of "Gaming product" is rubbish too and that's most certainly what this Titan purports to be.

 

[TNA]

I didn't think the price was *too bad* for the 7970 truth be told. Obviously after 12.11 they were worth their original purchase amount, just didn't help with Nvidia undercutting with the 680 whilst offering more bang

Though you got the usual suspects berating the faster 680 because the specs were lower

I did, after gladly buying a 4870 which at the time was a flagship card for around £200. lol. It just seems like Moore's law is coming to an end and companies getting more clever with price skimming to me.

 

[ALXAndy]

7970 was simply priced the same as the GTX 580 3gb it demolished. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Tonester0011]

Surprised he hasn't moaned at Nvidia for the lack of zombies, without those everything is rubbish. Everything you've posted is still an opinion, just an FYI.

With the exception of DP, where they have indeed gimped it more than usual. You added your opinions however, so pointless.

 

[TNA]

ALXAndy- Mate, I get what you are saying, there is a lot less value in Titan X than there was the Titan and I happen to agree. I think it's the way you are delivering the message is the problem here.

Most people getting offended or justifying are Titan X owners or one's who think it is not over priced. From their personal point of view they are right, even if that is a subjective opinion, they are entitled to it as it's their hard earned money. If it makes them happy, be a good fellow human and be happy for them

 

[TNA]

7970 was simply priced the same as the GTX 580 3gb it demolished. Nothing wrong with that.

Yes there is, I won't be happy if AMD start charging £900 for their top end because nvidia are doing so. Then suddenly mid range become £500..

Bad for us consumers all this is...

 

[africanos23]

ALXAndy I accept your opinion. I'm not trying to defend Nvidia, I could care less (I own AMD and Nvidia GPUs btw) aslong as I can game with not much hassle (hence me buying the Titan X and not the 390X, I have had enough problems with crossfire profiles), at a decent frame rate and smoothly on my resolution.

I'm still going to buy a second , thats me though...

 

[D.P.]

Would be absolute hell on if AMD released a card around the same performance and charged around the same price, we actually saw it with the 7970, although that was slightly faster than the 580, AMD charged a higher than their normal price for that, and so on every forum a going, there was massive threads on it, everyone slating AMD to absolute buggery for it.

People mistakenly think AMD is some kind of charity that purposely charge lower price for the good of humanity and underpaid gamers.

The fact is their goal is exactly the same as Nvidias , to maximize profit, and their aim would be to charge just as much or more than Nvidia does if they can. AMD don't want tiny margins, that kills companies.

IF AMD can charge as much as Nvidia they will, but atm they can't. They not only need cards to be equal or faster, but they need to completely change their brand image. Whether their reputation of poor CS, drivers, software , game support, crossfire, etc. is deserved or not that is what they currently have. People perceive AMD as a lower value brand and they wont wont easilly pay the same for an AMD card as a NVidia.





If the 390X does by some miracle start overtaking the Titan X then AMD likely will charge close to Titan X prices initially and then quickly drop down to 600 or so once the early adopters/AMD fans get theirs. This will be good, Nvidia might then lower Titan X prices.
I think more likely the 390x and 980Ti will chase each other for the performance crown at 600-650 quid and the Titan X is not matched so stays at 800-900.

 

[ALXAndy]

ALXAndy I accept your opinion. I'm not trying to defend Nvidia, I could care less (I own AMD and Nvidia GPUs btw) aslong as I can game with not much hassle (hence me buying the Titan X and not the 390X, I have had enough problems with crossfire profiles), at a decent frame rate and smoothly on my resolution.

I'm still going to buy a second , thats me though...

Good luck to you and enjoy

 

[Tonester0011]

It also can't be good for business having to out spec their competition only to offer near identical performance whilst needing to undercut to actually shift the products.

I'm sure AMD's profits, or lack thereof show this

 

[africanos23]

Good luck to you and enjoy

Thanks mate hopefully *fingers cross-fired*

Could you give us a new thread about how TRI-SLI scales (if your on a pci-e 3.0 supporting board 16x16x8) compared to SLI ? Overcoming and nuances on games you play (if you don't want to that's fine ofcourse).

 

[jamie1414]

Wait so you are telling me that only true enthusiasts can be so by buying a Titan X?

It's not me being insulting Greg.

And whether you like it or not that's exactly what you are doing.

Don't worry about me, mate. I've got five rigs, a 7990 numerous high end CPUs and three Titan Blacks. But you're certainly rubbing people's noses in it, trust me.

So you certainly don't have to worry about upsetting me.

Buddy...you're just reading his post as you want to. I don't know why people bother trying to explain things to you when you won't even read the post. Maybe English isn't your native language.

 

[yoyo59]

I think what ALX is saying is true,

Nvidia basically removed the feature of the titan what it was intended for, a cheap entry grade pro card for professionals & gamers alike.

yet this time round they remove the most important selling point of there Titan tax, yet charge the exact same price, painted it black and everyone was oblivious to the fact theyre paying for just gaming card with 12gb ram with no extra features of the titan brand.

yes it performs 30% or so better than the 980 but thats what we all expect from a titan release DP included or removed, this is not extra ground breaking performance.

this is why I was kind of upset when it was announced, as I held off buying a titan Z for a decent price, thinking Nvidia was going to release a better card.

 

[wunkley]

I still don't know what DP is. Genuine statement. And I bought a Titan X.

I should also add that my penis is incredibly, incredibly small.

 

[africanos23]

I still don't know what DP is. Genuine statement. And I bought a Titan X.

I should also add that my penis is incredibly, incredibly small.

You also own a Ferrari then don't you ?

 

[Ayahuasca]

I still don't know what DP is. Genuine statement. And I bought a Titan X.

I should also add that my penis is incredibly, incredibly small.

It stands for double penetration.

Unfortunately for you it looks like you can't even do single.