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High demand for Titan X exceed supply
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People are sheep, plus good marketing, are the only real reasons that people are buying this card. Anyone pretending that it is good value for money are kidding themselves.
The problem is that as more people jump on board and part with their cash, the more this will become the norm. Before the original Titan came along, it was unheard of really to spend approaching £1k for a single graphics card solution. It is a dangerous precedent to set IMO.
The problem is that as more people jump on board and part with their cash, the more this will become the norm. Before the original Titan came along, it was unheard of really to spend approaching £1k for a single graphics card solution. It is a dangerous precedent to set IMO.
I don't think anyone is pretending it's good value for money, you would have to be mad to think it is.
Fortunately I don't live life basing all my purchases on being good value for money, seems a pretty boring way to live.
Fortunately I don't live life basing all my purchases on being good value for money, seems a pretty boring way to live.
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Whilst your first sentence is entirely wrong, I do agree with your second completely.
Perhaps dangerous is over doing it a bit, but with AMD being **** poor at the moment, if there's no competition it's not good for us all as consumers in the long run. We'll have an Nvidia monopoly and will all have to suckle from the mighty green teat.
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Soldato
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Value is entirely subjective. If the Titan X has any attribute that a purchaser wants that isn't available on other cards then it represents good value to that buyer. You cant force your opinion of good value on to other people.
GPU price is driven entirely by people buying them, if sales dry up, prices drop. The complete lack of competition is allowing retailers to charge basically whatever they want.
I have no interest in why or who is buying these or the massive price tag. What does interest me is the Tech. The performance must be amazing on this thing. It’s a good thing to push for such advances and we will all benefit. Not buying a system till the end of the year and I’m going from a 2004 system. New operating system, Multi-core and silly performance to look forward to and getting back into playing a few games.
End of the year it will be cheaper and not the new kid on the block. Everyone will be raving about some new shiny new toy on the market. Anyone buying these in my mind is helping everyone out, they are paying for development into such powerful cards that will filter down.
End of the year it will be cheaper and not the new kid on the block. Everyone will be raving about some new shiny new toy on the market. Anyone buying these in my mind is helping everyone out, they are paying for development into such powerful cards that will filter down.
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The way I see it, is that I've massively paid over the odd's to finally get decent 4k 60fps performance without losing image quality.
Early adopters and all that.
My friends spend literally £1000's on SLR cameras and lenses though, so everyone has their thing.
Early adopters and all that.
My friends spend literally £1000's on SLR cameras and lenses though, so everyone has their thing.
Yes there is, I won't be happy if AMD start charging £900 for their top end because nvidia are doing so. Then suddenly mid range become £500..
Bad for us consumers all this is...
AMD will not charge £900 for a GPU. They can't, they'd never pull it off.
Put simply here? the 290 was almost as good as a Titan. The 290x was as good. Yet they charged nearly half the price. They could easily have slapped on a silly name and better looking cooler and charged £700 and they would have been cheap.
AMD usually price around Nvidia. I strongly doubt they will with the 390x but hey, water cooling carries a premium but I would say around £600.
Whether or not their drivers command that sort of pricing though is a mystery.
I'm looking at AMD for my next purchase but in all honesty I really do have what I need now. One Titan Black SLI rig that does 4k OK and a Titan Black mini rig for 1080p and older games at 4k.
There really isn't anything else I want or need and tbh I would rather wait now for the first real, fully fledged 4k card. Only then will I consider upgrading. I have two Titan Blacks, I would need two Titan X. Price just says no, but hey, let's see what the 980ti does. Thing is I will still need two and that's going to be at least a grand and I will only gain FPS.Not less noise, heat etc. Titan X is a hot bugger too which I am a little disappointed by.
Maybe the next iteration of the 295x2 might appeal to me, if AMD get the price right (hint they never do, a grand again....)
Actually no it is not
You can get a Titan X to run cooler than a reference 980 if you want to.
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For crossfire users especially, you would be better off getting lower end Nvidia cards. If AMD up their game on the driver side and put out something worthwhile (bareable heat output and a powerful card) they might just be able to charge accordingly.
Sadly I don't see it happening (on the driver side)...
Actually no it is not
You can get a Titan X to run cooler than a reference 980 if you want to.
It throttles though doesn't it?
No
Not if you ramp up the cooler.
The Titan X cooler is a lot better than the one on the reference 980.
Mine can stay at 80 degrees or under with a fairly modest custom fan curve. Goes at about 57% fan speed max for this which ain't bad at all and not too noisy.
This is with a fairly modest (compared to some) overclock as well adding 150 to the core and 200 to the mem.
It only throttles a tiny bit when doing this as the 'cut off' temp is 83. I'm still testing and a bit confused as to why it's throttling at all though, given it's not getting over 80 degrees.
This is with a fairly modest (compared to some) overclock as well adding 150 to the core and 200 to the mem.
It only throttles a tiny bit when doing this as the 'cut off' temp is 83. I'm still testing and a bit confused as to why it's throttling at all though, given it's not getting over 80 degrees.
Cameras is a good analagyo.
I have spent around 15K on camera gear. If I had more fund then my ideal setup, equivalent ot the Titan X costs:
NikoneD4s: £4500
D810: £2500
D7200 £900
800mm f/5.6: £13,000
400mm f/2.8: £10,500
300mm f/4 PD: £1600
80-400mm G: £1900
135mm f/2.0 DC: 1100
85mm f/1.4G £1200
58mm f/1.4G £1100
35mm f/1.4: 1300
24mm f/1.4: 1500
24mm f/4 PC: 1300
14-24mm: 1300
24-70mm f/2.8: £1300
70-200mk f.2.8: £1600
16-35mm f/4: £800
That isn't even a complete list of desired lenses that I know I would make use of, and excludes thousands in support, filters, tripod heads, memory cards, software.
I am not even going to total that lot up, but ultimately that is what i would want to own and I am working my way towards it. £800-900 for Titan X makes for a dirt cheap hobby IMO, I wish photography was that cheap!
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At stock and under load for over an hour (but with boost clocks) the highest temp I've seen is 84°C
The card throttles at 91°C.
Its far quieter than the 290x ref I had as part of my crossfire setup.
The card throttles at 91°C.
Its far quieter than the 290x ref I had as part of my crossfire setup.
When on air I was testing mine out overclocked on the Heaven 4 bench 2 at a time with the fans turned right up and the temps were staying between 57c and 60c depending on the card.
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man the nvid herd are getting wild today. He simply said that the moniker of enthusiast does not solely belong to titan x owners, THAT was all he said and it was simple to understand if you didn't read it as an overt attack and listened to the context he added afterwards in stating it was not an attack so clearly must have been a grievance over something else said.
It's getting sad how passive aggressive these forums are becoming over AMD recently. Every forum about AMD is some excuse about crossfire profiles being bad, AMD letting the industry rip us off (sadly the blame is laid at AMD and never the people fuelling Nvidia) or any other bragging contest :?