Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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I didn't get to see it until last night, it was an OK episode but nothing special.

I'm liking the idea of Tyrion and Daenerys teaming up.
 
Have to admit I never know if I should click to open the spoilers to see what is being discussed as it's not usually apparent if it's a book spoiler or someone using spoilers for the episode that has just been aired. Discussion of episodes that have been aired in the UK shouldn't need to be spoilered though I guess.

First episode was fine. They're usually just building up and setting the scene for what's to come, so it was what I expected really.
 
Surfer said:
i thought a certain fight on the final episode of s4 was extremely tacky and ridiculous really...just seemed they put it in just for excitement? (was it in the book?)
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It's what TV Tropes calls the "the other kind of fan-service". Essentially you are correct - it was put there because someone thought it was cool. Which it was. It was also bad drama.
 
Perhaps but it was also a necessity.
The other method of following the books would have left 10 episodes of more spun out drivel wasting time to allow Arya to get to the position she now finds herself in.
The fight left us at a point where her storyline can progress.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Perhaps but it was also a necessity.
The other method of following the books would have left 10 episodes of more spun out drivel wasting time to allow Arya to get to the position she now finds herself in.
The fight left us at a point where her storyline can progress.
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The series painted itself into this corner by putting the episode 9 fight into episode 1. The fight in the inn at the beginning is very close to the one which left The Hound mortally wounded in the books. But the writers were too in love with the Arya/Hound Show and dragged out a very minor part of the book for the whole series. As with all the changes they've made from the books, they have been guided mainly by the desire to please the target audience: teenage and early twenties males who like SciFi. Ironically, the series has succeeded precisely because it has broken out of the SciFi ghetto. But the writers still sometimes can't see beyond those walls.
 
That may have been true in the first few books but actually now there's an issue with the storyline dragging to a halt and being much ado about nothing.

If anything the changes in the TV series make for much more entertainment. Complexity and slowness for the sake of it does not a good series make - be that book or film.
 
Pighardia said:
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Ahh that explains much. However...
if it wasnt in the book then how does the hound and Arya part ways, in the book, so she can run off and be an Assassin (which im guessing btw as ive never read the books but hoping this is the way it goes :D)

Hikari touches about this but doesnt make it explicit how it happens in the books
 
I like the changes they've made for me the later books drag a bit. Not to the Lord of the Rings hello son of X, son of Y, son of Z spend 5 pages describing mountains kind of way but nevertheless they pace does drop.
 
Looks like Sky are now broadcasting the rest of the season at the same time as the US, in case there's anyone who can't wait until the regular slot at 9pm.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
The other method of following the books would have left 10 episodes of more spun out drivel wasting time to allow Arya to get to the position she now finds herself in..
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Agreed, the only shame was I really liked the back and forth between Arya and the hound in the TV version of the story. It's a shame that couldn't continue. The exchange between them when he caught Arya practicing was one of my fav moments of the series.
 
Meridian said:
The series painted itself into this corner by putting the episode 9 fight into episode 1. The fight in the inn at the beginning is very close to the one which left The Hound mortally wounded in the books. But the writers were too in love with the Arya/Hound Show and dragged out a very minor part of the book for the whole series. As with all the changes they've made from the books, they have been guided mainly by the desire to please the target audience: teenage and early twenties males who like SciFi. Ironically, the series has succeeded precisely because it has broken out of the SciFi ghetto. But the writers still sometimes can't see beyond those walls.
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I thought the dynamic between them was quite interesting - especially as the writers explored some of the aspects of what made the hound like he was and revisited some of the things he'd done in the past (do kind of need to know his story background to make sense of it though) in situations where he actually had a choice as to which way to act rather than being forced down a particular path with some aspects of a redemption story though he ultimately fails. Plus as a role model it also makes Arya's character development much more believable.
 
Enjoyed the second episode starting to pan out nicely although that ending ruined it abit for me.
Was hoping the dragon was going to stay :( glad to see bronn back though hes one of my favourite characters, aryas storyline has got me intrigued
 
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