****The Official The Avengers: Age of Ultron Thread ****

I hope Whedon hasn't expelled feces all over his bed with Disney/Marvel by publicly airing their disagreements.
 
Was alright but not as good as the first.

Way too many jokes i thought, I actually started to cringe. Some of the action was far to fast pace at times that I couldn't see what was happening
 
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I dont get the humour of Ultron, its like it was imprinted with Starks humour, but you dont see that in the movie, the core of Ultron comes from the stone in Loki's staff thing, we dont see, as far as I remember, ANY part of Stark being put on the Ultron program...
 
It comes from the stone's power but also meshed with Stark's project. Pretty sure he already said that they'd been working on the Ultron program but didn't have the power to complete it.
 
The idea was that Ultron was more than just an AI. They touched on it when Banner mentions it's more like a brain than a computer program (like JARVIS). So in a way, the gem gave ultron 'life' and he was very childlike and sarcastic all the time in that regard due to being young and naive and seeing the world from that point of view.
 
I dont think its a case of keeping the quality up, its more a case of TPTB have realized they are onto a good thing and are now saturating their own market which in turn will cause quality to drop, money will drop as a side effect, then the whole thing will burn out...

2 Movies a year is hardly saturating the market - and if anything having 1 "Main" movie i.e. Avengers 2 this year, and 1 more unknown movie i.e. Antman, helps push the exposure of the lesser known film. As long as the quality remains consistent, which so far it pretty much has, I can't see an issue with it.

The latest trailer hit the right tone. Humor similar to Guardians of the Galaxy plus a solid comic book vibe.

I liked the Antman trailer, especially the end scene - looking forward to this - probably nothing original, but will be a slightly more light-hearted movie, against the slightly more serious Avengers/Captain America side of things.


And knowing spiderman could have been in this but marvel are ******s is a joke. Spiderman is THE avengers and its really poor that he is still not in it.

It wasn't Marvel's fault - Sony held the rights to Spiderman Movies, but this has recently changed - clearly not in time for this Movie, but I would expect him to be in 3rd Avenger Film, maybe even with a part in Captain America 3 (even if it's just a post credit scene for example)
 
I was appalled by the homo-eroticism on display when a man kept coming to the rescue of another man.

What people need to realise (and Marvel too to some extent) is that Romanov ISN'T Super powered. It's surprising she manages to hold her own in a lot of the fights and only when things get really heated does she need help, not rescued. She never ducks a fight, always tries to do what's necessary and required, yet has no 'extras' she can tap into compared to everyone else. Personally I think she's a HUGELY positive role model for women in that she can, most of the time, do what the God, a Billionaire Genius Playboy Philanthropist, a Scientist with breath-taking Anger issues, a Super Soldier and a world class Marksman can do with only two pistols, a very flexible spine, two electric batons and a 'Can do' attitude.

P.S. Marvel really need to do a Female led film and, ideally, soon. The fact they haven't so far is more sexist than any Black Widow needs rescued by a man trope people are so up in arms about. I believe Captain Marvel is 2018 or even 2019?


Oh yes, the film. Very enjoyable but some bits made no sense.
The Thor cave scene seems either forced (as the article linked above implies) or not expanded on enough. And then Thor doesn't appear for over twenty minutes leaving me confused as hell. Is there really anyone out there who's missed the GLARING clues and prompts regarding the Infinity Stones in previous movies? Any way I thought the Infinity Gauntlet was held in the treasure room in Asgard? I did originally think the Sceptre was powered by the Tesseract and Thanos originally gave the Sceptre to Loki. Why would he do that if he was trying to assemble the Infinity Stones anyway? I guess it does reveal how and why it allowed the wielder to brainwash anyone it touched in The Avengers.

Also was it just me or did Ultron not exactly come across as a huge global threat?
 
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The Thor cave scene seems either forced (as the article linked above implies) or not expanded on enough. And then Thor doesn't appear for over twenty minutes leaving me confused as hell. Is there really anyone out there who's missed the GLARING clues and prompts regarding the Infinity Stones in previous movies? Any way I thought the Infinity Gauntlet was held in the treasure room in Asgard? I did originally think the Sceptre was powered by the Tesseract and Thanos originally gave the Sceptre to Loki. Why would he do that if he was trying to assemble the Infinity Stones anyway? I guess it does reveal how and why it allowed the wielder to brainwash anyone it touched in The Avengers.

Also was it just me or did Ultron not exactly come across as a huge global threat?

Dunno about Thor, I need to go and re-watch the movie very soon as I nipped out for a pee at this point! :(

I think Thanos is playing the Long Con or what ever you want to call it :D, Sending the stones he has access to out into the universe in hopes the attract the others to assemble in the gauntlet.

Ultron existed EVERYWHERE all the individual robots, whilst still inside the entire internet (which The Vision Purged him from... or did he!?! we know that once something is on the internet it can't be gotten rid of easily!!!) Plus dropping a Town the size of Swindon from a couple thousand feet (I think they said 12,000) would spark an ELE and wipe us out!! thats prety global as threats go for me!! :D
 
One other thing that I've seen brought up about the Infinity Gauntlet is...
The gauntlet at the end of Age of Ultron is a left-handed gauntlet. But the one seen in the Odin's vault in Thor is a right-handed gauntlet. Also the one in Thor already has/had the stones in it.

So will this be kept as cannon? If there are two gauntlets, could we see Infinity Gauntlet against Infinity Gauntlet in Infinity Wars??
 
The gauntlet in Thor 1 was just an easter egg, I believe that was before they even knew where they were taking the universe. Wouldn't take it as 'canon'
 
Personally I think she's a HUGELY positive role model for women in that she can, most of the time, do what the God, a Billionaire Genius Playboy Philanthropist, a Scientist with breath-taking Anger issues, a Super Soldier and a world class Marksman can do with only two pistols, a very flexible spine, two electric batons and a 'Can do' attitude.

I don't think it's really the "rescued by a man" thing - although I'm sure that bothers some people. Personally I thought she did most of the saving as all the male Avengers seem to run out of ideas after "HIT STUFF". And yet the thing that appears to affect her most (in the film) is that she can't have children - that seems utterly out of odds with the character and unnecessary to the film.

P.S. Marvel really need to do a Female led film and, ideally, soon. The fact they haven't so far is more sexist than any Black Widow needs rescued by a man trope people are so up in arms about. I believe Captain Marvel is 2018 or even 2019?

To say all the fuss that has been made about DC's sexist attitude, they still managed to announce, write, cast and start filming a female led film, before Marvel (with a 5 year head start) have even put Widow on most of the merchandise they sell...
 
I don't think it's really the "rescued by a man" thing - although I'm sure that bothers some people. Personally I thought she did most of the saving as all the male Avengers seem to run out of ideas after "HIT STUFF". And yet the thing that appears to affect her most (in the film) is that she can't have children - that seems utterly out of odds with the character and unnecessary to the film.

I dunno, I think so much has been made of that small scene, yet no one seems to be taking it in context.

Banner says there's no future with him because he's a monster and can't have kids, he can't have a family and a normal life. She says she's a monster too, that she's done terrible things that she's making up for, that at the end of her training, they sterilized her so she could never have kids, never have second thoughts or compassion, to become the monster. She can't have kids or a normal life either.

Widow isn't calling herself a monster because she can't have kids. She's saying that she's done terrible, monstrous things just like Banner, that the sterilization was a turning point that made her from a child into the monster she was trained to become. For Banner that moment that made him was the Gamma ray hit that turn him into the Hulk. For Widow it was the years of training, her first kill, and finally the sterilization that took away her future as anything but the assassin killer.

People with agendas have only managed to see "female character needs a man", but Widow feels a kinship with Banner because they both are looking for some kind of atonement for what they are and what they've done. Their close relationship (her as his handler) and the intense situations they've been through - well, intimacy happens, and they both want some basic human warmth and connection that their respective situations have denied them.

Do I think any of this was right or necessary for the film? No, definitely not, but if we read a little between the lines (if audiences can still do that), then I think Whedon is trying to do more here with the characters than just leave them as two dimensional cut-outs. It's just the harsh edits to get the shortened running time have left those who want to find something to be offended by this little nugget to shout about.

All the characters have their stories and fears, but for the most part they are cut. Banner and Widow want a normal life free of the killing. Stark wants an end to the fear that he can't protect the world and will get everyone killed. Cap mourns the life and the woman he lost years in the past. Hawkeye wants a world for his kids, a time when he can lay down his bow and live a simple life. Thor fears he can't protect Asgard.

Scarlet Witch reaches into their heads to show the audience who they are. It's all there, but the big cuts in the running time left the character parts as chopped up, disjointed scenes between the action set-pieces.
 
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To say all the fuss that has been made about DC's sexist attitude, they still managed to announce, write, cast and start filming a female led film, before Marvel (with a 5 year head start) have even put Widow on most of the merchandise they sell...

Apparently Widow is missing from a lot of stuff, look at the Age of Ultron posters etc, tbh Hawkeye is missing a lot as well, the main focus seems to be on those with some form of superpower/suit...
 
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