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^^ They ended up doing a u-turn on it - but only I think because they screwed up and there was some security issues.

1-2 Devs aside though they are hopelessly out of touch - i.e. the map they really need to start engaging with actual players and taking the feedback more seriously rather than ramming through what they think it should be like as ultimately its the players who will have to work with it.
 
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I think there's a "Plex for Good" coming up this weekend. If you have any left, then those charities who benefit would love for them to be donated.

The Korenchkin Benevolent Fund is also a worthy (in-game) charity. All proceeds will go towards making nullsec safer for victimised NPCs from evil ratters.
 
They definitely aren't doing anything to encourage me to come back, some of the coming changes make thing counter intuitive compared to how they used to be and/or changes for changes sake almost like a new development team putting "their" stamp on the game.

Know a couple of people who lost double figure billions on the genolution thing - taking it a lot more calmly than I would have. (Though not really something wise to invest in given how they come into the game).
 
It has been said time and time again that market speculation for patches is just that. Speculation. I'm sure none of the guys who made double figure billions bitch when they get it right. Good god some people who play Eve really are miserable twits...

Pretty happy with all the incoming changes tbh.
 
Some things are always going to come to an end. The question is not if but when. If people think the BPOs they got on the lottery or as a favour from their CCP corpmates are going to last forever then they are sorely mistaken.

You know they say don't fly what you can't afford. The simple fact is everything is PVP - drop PI then you are competing for the same resources, you think you grind LP just from PVE - wrong you are competing to sell it against other players and this applies when you speculate on the market. There will always be someone more clued up, more informed, more devious, considerably more lucky, etc. And that is why if you can afford to lose double digit billions then it shouldn't matter to you because you would never bet that much (and that's what you are doing better) unless is was a minority of your asset portfolio. Unless of course ...

At least that's my take on it. But hey what do I know I have less than 1 million in ISK as it stands at the moment. But I am having fun! And I do have an awful lot of junk stuck in stations around New Eden!

I am quite looking forward to working with our new imminent the overlords the almighty drifters who seem to be coming in rather large quantities very soon.

And it is effectively a new lead and has been for some time putting her stamp on the game.
 
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It has been said time and time again that market speculation for patches is just that. Speculation. I'm sure none of the guys who made double figure billions bitch when they get it right. Good god some people who play Eve really are miserable twits...

Pretty happy with all the incoming changes tbh.

Wasn't patch based market speculation - these were investments (before any knowledge of patch changes, etc.) - the wrong thing to invest in IMO as unlike other items they are injected into the game by CCP directly but still its one thing to lose an investment from natural market movement and another due to CCP making changes i.e. what happened with mining foreman mindlinks.
 
But there is a known risk to such things as you've pointed out - you gamble they won't be injected again or removed. Same for BPOs - now years ago I would have said they would have been a good investment. These days I strongly suspect at the prices sometimes quoted you would not make a return before they were removed.

Come and hang with us for a bit Rroff we are chilled low key. See how things go before doing more "strenuous" stuff. A bloke of your experience would be a great asset we have a lot of newbros.
 
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Patch based or not it's still speculation that things will remain a good investment. No-one should have any expectation that things that they own should go up in price.

If CCP were to stop changing things significantly so as to not upset these investors the game would be in a poor place.
 
I've only just trained up a faction war bomber pilot. That is a gamble of a few PLEX to do something I should have done ages ago to break things up when I needed a break and got sick of nullsec etc. Now I am gambling I will make a return on that PLEX. I may not though!
 
Patch based or not it's still speculation that things will remain a good investment. No-one should have any expectation that things that they own should go up in price.

If CCP were to stop changing things significantly so as to not upset these investors the game would be in a poor place.

Aside from genolution cores being a stupid thing to invest in - its one thing to lose due to market fluctuation, making a bad play/decision, etc. and another due to devs changing things outside of your control or ability to foresee. The odd time is one thing but encounter it too often another - it would be much less of an issue if they were more responsive to people who were genuinely affected by the changes as well.

Come and hang with us for a bit Rroff we are chilled low key. See how things go before doing more "strenuous" stuff. A bloke of your experience would be a great asset we have a lot of newbros.

I need to be able to plan stuff long term to keep me interested in the game otherwise I just spend my gaming time on FPS games, been burnt too many times to come back without a huge change in the way CCP deals with stuff like that.
 
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I don't think CCP will ever change from what you want. From what you've put these past few pages I guess it's just one of those things that has come to an end. Like a relationship that has reached its end you kind of have to focus on the good stuff and move forward.

If you do want to come back to something low intensity and just chilled though give us a shout and hang for a time before moving onto something you can get your teeth into. Nothing worse than getting burnt out on anything let alone a game. Sometimes a step a back helps you move forward.

I've got young kids I can't be on comms and certainly not with the potty mouths some people I have found over the years. Maybe you'll find a different path for a bit or go away completely and then come back or never come back at all. Don't burn any bridges though and keep options open and most of all don't think so much about the things that annoy you know remember the stuff you have done. I don't make much ISK really these days compared to before but I can say I have done what I did in the past and I quite like just chilling now - it's almost like retiring in game!
 
Aside from genolution cores being a stupid thing to invest in - its one thing to lose due to market fluctuation, making a bad play/decision, etc. and another due to devs changing things outside of your control or ability to foresee.

That's how investment works though. Buy cheap, sell as/before it reaches maturity. If it was predictable it just wouldn't work, or be fun/rewarding. Don't forget, for people to make isk, someone else has to lose it. I'd also wager most market fluctuations were caused by expansions/changes.
 
I don't think CCP will ever change from what you want. From what you've put these past few pages I guess it's just one of those things that has come to an end. Like a relationship that has reached its end you kind of have to focus on the good stuff and move forward.

If you do want to come back to something low intensity and just chilled though give us a shout and hang for a time before moving onto something you can get your teeth into. Nothing worse than getting burnt out on anything let alone a game. Sometimes a step a back helps you move forward.

I've got young kids I can't be on comms and certainly not with the potty mouths some people I have found over the years. Maybe you'll find a different path for a bit or go away completely and then come back or never come back at all. Don't burn any bridges though and keep options open and most of all don't think so much about the things that annoy you know remember the stuff you have done. I don't make much ISK really these days compared to before but I can say I have done what I did in the past and I quite like just chilling now - it's almost like retiring in game!

Yeah I don't really expect them to change sadly, it kind of sucks because eve is quite different in that way in that unlike many games that long term planning is much more of a thing (in theory).

I won't be coming back to eve on principle though even in a more casual fashion without a pretty big change from CCP once I say I'll walk away I walk away and don't go back on that - its not something I say lightly. If I do end up coming back due to a change from CCP I'd be looking for something more casual though - currently working the 3:45pm to midnight shift most days which kills a lot of time I could invest into eve.

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EDIT: Oh @ the ex-TXSI lot after bei's childish spasm on the alliance forums I won't be returning there so if there is anything that needs my attention post/message me here.

(Oh PS I know 99% of what they've been talking about about me on comms, etc. lols too funny)

EDIT2: Regarding the stuff he was belittling - ignoring that each situation is going to vary a little - typically against a fleet like that a moros is cap dead in half armor at best and no longer shooting by halfway through a siege cycle and dead about a minute later - nag should have most of its shields left having soaked up most of the damage by the time its cap dead, crucially still shooting and able to refit to an armour buffer on the way down, bulkheads if needed and with a bit of luck able to make it out of siege - with that shield repper on the nid able to get it turned around quicker and back in for another roll of the dice. (Obviously with several dreads that changes things a bit but the point still stands that the nag is the better option in that kind of scenario).

The shield repper suggestion was partly due to weaknesses I came across while testing various scenarios with my own little carrier army on SISI and not ignorant of the fact that its entirely useless against the main bulk of damage a ship will be receiving - that isn't what its there for. One day they might find out the hard way why I made that suggestion. (As an aside - with damage control + shield resist link there won't be that 0% resist someone mentioned).

Regarding faction BS - a pantheon setup works best when your largely fielding capitals with the odd faction BS for specific roles, if your running a setup that has a small RR carrier core (this is not a pantheon setup) and mostly T3s you absolutely need one carrier in a dedicated sub-capital repping role for any serious engagement.
 
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Ive been toying with getting started in EVE for a long time.....I just dont know where to start.

Ive been pumping hours into Elite and feel like I could do with stepping up into this.

I know its got a massive learning curve, but im prepared to invest the time if the payoff is what I think i will be.

Ive seen people on other sites posting links to 30 day trials that gives a kick back to the poster if I sign up fully....are there any of those around here that would help somebody up when I sign up ?

And is there an OCUK guild/clan/corporation thingy to join ?
 
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