Raped 10 year old forced to give birth

Xordium · 13 May 2015 at 08:54

TwsT said:
ok.. If you say so.

So you can't substantiate your argument and come out with "if you say so" - what is it you do at OcUK? Secondary school work experience?

spoffle · 13 May 2015 at 08:56

Xordium said:
So you can't substantiate your argument and come out with "if you say so" - what is it you do at OcUK? Secondary school work experience?

He's the guy that insults customers and calls them whingers for airing legitimate gripes.

Xordium · 13 May 2015 at 09:15

spoffle said:
He's the guy that insults customers and calls them whingers for airing legitimate gripes.

I don't know anything about that but I've noticed a number of his posts now and he doesn't exactly conduct himself with the decorum the other staff members do. Maybe he should take a look at that. The shop has spent many years getting over former reputation problems due to what was posted on these forum and even now if you look on Hotdeals etc it is inevitable people will still bring it up. Unfairly in my eyes.

spoffle · 13 May 2015 at 09:21

Xordium said:
I don't know anything about that but I've noticed a number of his posts now and he doesn't exactly conduct himself with the decorum the other staff members do. Maybe he should take a look at that. The shop has spent many years getting over former reputation problems due to what was posted on these forum and even now if you look on Hotdeals etc it is inevitable people will still bring it up. Unfairly in my eyes.

There was a thread a little while back where a few of us were talking about some legitimate issues we had over something, and his response was to dismiss them and go on about how we're all whingers and something else. We made fun of what he said which resulted in some back pedalling.

I sincerely agree though, it's a good job that store staff aren't automatically given moderator status any more with how some of them used it when they got into arguments they couldn't hold.

I think that's played a big part in their reputation going up, as well as the sale to Caseking. I started buying from here again after I learnt the original owner was no longer involved. I noticed that changes were being made, much for the better around the time, and after the change of ownership.

cheesyboy · 13 May 2015 at 09:26

Xordium said:
I don't know anything about that but I've noticed a number of his posts now and he doesn't exactly conduct himself with the decorum the other staff members do. Maybe he should take a look at that. The shop has spent many years getting over former reputation problems due to what was posted on these forum and even now if you look on Hotdeals etc it is inevitable people will still bring it up. Unfairly in my eyes.

I'd rather have the staff be able to partake in our forum discussions without people who disagree with them trying to make that member of staff's views into a slight on the shop.

I think it's a positive that OC lets it's staff express their own views and personality, even if I were to disagree with them.

spoffle · 13 May 2015 at 09:36

cheesyboy said:
I'd rather have the staff be able to partake in our forum discussions without people who disagree with them trying to make that member of staff's views into a slight on the shop.

I think it's a positive that OC lets it's staff express their own views and personality, even if I were to disagree with them.

Hey, we aren't saying he shouldn't have his views. I'm criticising his lack of conviction. If you're gonna have those sort of views, at least stand by them and attempt to support them when someone questions them instead abandoning them straight away when the first sign of criticism pops up.

Xordium · 13 May 2015 at 09:45

cheesyboy said:
I'd rather have the staff be able to partake in our forum discussions without people who disagree with them trying to make that member of staff's views into a slight on the shop.

I think it's a positive that OC lets it's staff express their own views and personality, even if I were to disagree with them.

I don't agree with a few shop members, on a variety of points, but they don't come out with something really contentious and potentially very insensitive and then just give a "ok.. If you say so.". There is a difference between someone who makes a point you don't agree with and someone who says something pretty contentious and then backs it up with the eloquence of a grunting teenager.

In the same way I don't wholly agree with what you are saying but I appreciate what you think and the fact you've substantiated it and given a reason. I can say well cheesyboy doesn't see the world the same as me but he quite clearly thought about it and our opinions differ. That leaves the impression you are a person who thinks about things even if they don't come to the same conclusions as me. However, whenever I see responses like the above I just think Little Britain or at least hope they are a parody.

wordy · 13 May 2015 at 12:37

TwsT said:
I think it's the woman's right to choose to rid what is essentially just a parasite from their body since it is until it's born, 100% dependant on the host for life. I don't think it has any rights.

So 1/2 before it's due she changes her mind so in go the surgeons right?

Tosno · 13 May 2015 at 13:00

I will have to back pedal after say I won't comment more in this thread, but the murder of life that is dependant on a "host" is fine comes from the lowest pit of hell. Seems abortion and euthanasia has reached the bottom of the slippery slope in this thread. I hope the silver lining is it will open a few eyes as to what those who push it, really want.

Dis86 · 13 May 2015 at 13:04

Xordium said:
I think it's you who need to get a grip really. Your previous justification was pathetic too because a child who is born is 100% dependent on their parents, as are old people too with dementia for example, as are a lot of disabled people too. Are they all parasites, are you trolling or are you really that stupid and lacking in empathy?

Technically it is a parasitic relationship.
As you say though...empathy comes in to play! It may be parasitic now but in the case of children it won't be in the future. Dementia sufferers weren't in the past. We certainly shouldn't just wheel them off the end of a pier.

Freefaller · 13 May 2015 at 13:10

cheesyboy said:
Article is, probably deliberately, vague on the point, but the suggestion from the second paragraph is that she is already more than 22 weeks pregnant.

Aborting a healthy baby/foetus at around that stage is illegal in most countries, UK included (24 weeks) outside of legitimate serious health risks. Being only 10 and, presumably, not really physically suitable for birthing might be risk enough.

One of the problems is that you can't just "abort" a 24 week old baby, as they will still need to be birthed, or removed, and may survive the process - which rather complicates the issue.

Nonetheless, an awful story all round.

I think this sums it up well.

Either way it is tragic and sad story.

Xordium · 13 May 2015 at 15:16

Dis86 said:
Technically it is a parasitic relationship.
As you say though...empathy comes in to play! It may be parasitic now but in the case of children it won't be in the future. Dementia sufferers weren't in the past. We certainly shouldn't just wheel them off the end of a pier.

A parasitic relationship is a one way deal. Are you suggesting that a woman has no benefit from being pregnant - no psychological wellbeing, no intrinsic response towards something she has been genetically primed to do? I would think knowing your posting history you would not - the problem here is that someone has taken a rather strange view that it is a parasitic relationship because he has assumed that the relationship is solely defined by the provision of gas and nutrients.