Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[mmj_uk]

I've no idea how much the 390(not X) 4GB will cost, but unless it has a very large number or shaders shut down, it has a good chance of slaughtering the TX in Vulkan / DX12 in games not demanding huge amounts of VRAM.

When Mantle was coded exclusively for GCN it couldn't even slaughter Nvidia with DX11 and all of its overheads so how do you come to that conclusion?

 

[elmuzzy66.]

They releasing zen soon.

Is that the normal soon or 'amd soon'?

 

[Squid]

If AMD can deliver high performance GPUs, why cant they sort out their CPUs?

quite simply they cant afford the R&D.

back in 2006 AMD bought ATI for 5.4 billion $.

fast forward to now its lost 93% of its value as a company.

It has changed CEO again and again after multiple failed turnarounds.

Massive staff layoffs.

Saddled with debt had to sell of Globalfoundries to qatar, digital TV chip business to Broadcom and its mobile graphics business to Qualcomm.

No ones going to buy AMD and rescue it due the x86 license mess around it.

I miss the AMD from 2006, the two market CPU choice and GPU choice let to us getting some competitive prices.

Shame the company's last hope is Jim Keller but i dont think thats going to cut it.

 

[Boomstick777]

*SNIP*

Shame the company's last hope is Jim Keller but i dont think thats going to cut it.

 

[Rroff]

Different teams, I would imagine most of the graphics team is still made up a lot of the old ATI team. The CPU division we know has had some important people come and go over the last 9 nine years and has been is disarray before the launch of Bulldozer. The other thing to remember is chip designs are several years in the making so once you start down a track in this type of environment it’s not straight forward change things at the last minute.

I would also imagine it’s easier to compete against Nvidia then it is Intel due to the relative R&D budgets and finances involved. Also are forever a process node ahead of their rivals and never allow anyone else to licence its manufacturing technology.

Annoying thing is they actually had the ideas on paper (ability to "turbo" charge certain functionality on the fly for single thread performance, etc.) needed to make the latest CPUs a serious competitor for Intel (wouldn't have beaten them but would have been strongly competitive) but then went with a much more balanced performance model still strung around their idealistic views of how a CPU should be and how all software "should" be multi-threaded which in reality just isn't going to happen like that and you can't force things like that no matter how much it is the "proper" way things should be done.

 

[formby]

"END O' JUNE me watch wa rayt"

 

[Bane]

Hexus mentioned OEM models that are just rebrands up to 380. If that's going to be the same for retail products.

•The AMD Radeon R9 380 is based on the current retail Radeon R9 285 card
•The AMD Radeon R9 370 is based on the current retail Radeon R7 265 card with a little more GPU clock speed applied
•The AMD Radeon R9 360 is based on the current Radeon R9 260 OEM card

 

[chroniclard]

yay new thread with the same stuff.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Is that the normal soon or 'amd soon'?

The ready when it's ready sort of soon.

Then when it's ready, it isn't really ready

 

[David Bisset]

Taking a step back...I think it would be silly if there's any Nvidia loyalists actually wishing the AMD not to do well on the 390x, cause even if they are never going to buy a AMD card in a million years, if the 390x do well and is priced aggressively, it would only mean it would forces Nvidia to not rip them off (too much) with the 980Ti 6GB. Just think back about price drop of the GTX780 when the 290/290x were launched!

So regardless of if belonging in the "green camp" or "red camp", EVERYONE should be wishing the 390x to be a great card at a great price

Nah but if they charge less it makes the cards worse - I've seen them say it so many times. Paying more is what makes the cards so good so really they're hoping for prices to rise rapidly for the existing cards, really bump the performance up there

Sorry, couldn't resist

 

[Kaapstad]

I used the GeForce but the price cost me an arm and a leg !!!

 

[Marine-RX179]

Nah but if they charge less it makes the cards worse - I've seen them say it so many times. Paying more is what makes the cards so good so really they're hoping for prices to rise rapidly for the existing cards, really bump the performance up there

Sorry, couldn't resist

In a sense they are not completely wrong, if it is Nvidia cards they are talking about. I mean just look the "unusually reasonsibly launch price" of the 970, and I think it has certain crossed peoples' mind "what's the catch?" Well, we all found out soon enough

 

[bru]

In a sense they are not completely wrong, if it is Nvidia cards they are talking about. I mean just look the "unusually reasonsibly launch price" of the 970, and I think it has certain crossed peoples' mind "what's the catch?" Well, we all found out soon enough

The daft thing is, if they had of been upfront about the 970, it still would have sold like crazy and it wouldn't of damaged NVidia reputation like it has. It was an utterly stupid move by NVidia.

 

[Boomstick777]

The daft thing is, if they had of been upfront about the 970, it still would have sold like crazy and it wouldn't of damaged NVidia reputation like it has. It was an utterly stupid move by NVidia.

+1

After it came out I really thought Nvidia would have handled it better than just washing their hands of it and releasing that apology that wasn't an apology lol.

However the 750 Ti, 960, 980 and Titan X are all very good cards. Will just pretend the 970 doesn't exist

I'm still expecting a 960 Ti, 970 Ti, and 980 Ti at some point. The selling point of the 970 Ti can be 'real 4GB capacity'

 

[Orangey]

The 960 is pointless isn't it? IMO the TX is the only good one out of that lot, I don't agree with the mutton dressed as lamb 980.

 

[Gerard]

The 960 is pointless isn't it? IMO the TX is the only good one out of that lot, I don't agree with the mutton dressed as lamb 980.

The 980 is an oddball card if you ask me, got a lot of hype but really was just a 1 gig upgrade over the 780ti using less power. Yes well and good that it uses less power but in performance terms it really did nothing new.

 

[Orangey]

Careful people get really mad if you don't like the 980.

There is a mass-delusion around it from years of NV marketing, that ridiculous propaganda blitz at launch with the moon landing demo and the fact that people WANTED/NEEDED it to be good.

There was even a thread here titled "is the 980 the best card ever".

History won't be kind to it and it will fade away quickly after Pascal. Meanwhile great cards like 8800, GF3 etc will be remembered fondly.

 

[Rroff]

24th June is my birthday so no AMD can't go releasing a new GPU then...

 

[Boomstick777]

The 960 is pointless isn't it? IMO the TX is the only good one out of that lot, I don't agree with the mutton dressed as lamb 980.

Haha, I've tried them all and got a soft spot for the 960. It's my fav Maxwell card tbh. Seriously underrated imho. The 980 is a very fast / cool running GPU. Not sure what you're smoking over there Orangey

Yeah the Titan X is a beast but look at the price tag man. £150 gets ya a 960 with the Witcher 3, can't argue with that

 

[Orangey]

Interview with someone from Synapse, the people who do contract work for AMD.

http://www.advancedsubstratenews.co...h-volume-28nm-fd-soi-socs-production-in-2016/

Maybe AMD want a contingency in case 14FF cannot make 300+mm2 dies by 2016 and they will end up using this as a stop gap.