Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

Kaapstad · 13 May 2015 at 15:38

varkanoid said:
The rumours about the release all seem to surface from this vague article.

http://benchlife.info/amd-radeon-300-series-would-announce-in-june-18th-and-24th-05112015/

Note the word "rebrand".

A picture is worth a thousand words (more so when they are in Chinese).

JediFragger · 13 May 2015 at 15:42

If it's anything like their drivers of late, the 390's will ship in November

JediFragger · 13 May 2015 at 15:42

Get ready for the rebrands bitches!!!!

Dicehunter · 13 May 2015 at 15:45

Kaapstad said:
I think people need to stop comparing the 390X to the TitanX for this sort of thing and look at how they are going to use the cards instead. Both cards are likely to have similar performance but paying extra for a single 12gb card to use @1080p or 1440p is not good when you can get the same performance from a cheaper 8gb 390X.

On the other hand if you are going to use 3 cards @2160p 12gb of VRAM is the way to go for performance and longevity.

The amount of people total who would use 3 x TX's could all probably fit into a mini cooper though

Surely at 1440P a TX wouldn't be that overkill considering games like Shadow of Mordor I've seen sneaking up on just over 8GB at 1440P :eek:

Kaapstad · 13 May 2015 at 15:48

Dicehunter said:
The amount of people total who would use 3 x TX's could all probably fit into a mini cooper though

Surely at 1440P a TX wouldn't be that overkill considering games like Shadow of Mordor I've seen sneaking up on just over 8GB at 1440P

If you can find games that can get past 8gb @1440p then yes the TitanX is the way to go.

bru · 13 May 2015 at 15:51

Kaapstad said:
A picture is worth a thousand words (more so when they are in Chinese).

Yup you do have to love internet translations.

We all know what it means but the actual text is almost pure gibberish, a couple of words here and there could completely change what it says.

Ayahuasca · 13 May 2015 at 15:51

The hype is strong.

People really think they'll get a card that bests the TX for 549 dollars?

ALXAndy · 13 May 2015 at 15:51

Dicehunter said:
The amount of people total who would use 3 x TX's could all probably fit into a mini cooper though

Surely at 1440P a TX wouldn't be that overkill considering games like Shadow of Mordor I've seen sneaking up on just over 8GB at 1440P

Oi do you mind? We've got a Mini Cooper and it's actually quite spacious

Dicehunter · 13 May 2015 at 15:54

Ayahuasca said:
The hype is strong.

People really think they'll get a card that bests the TX for 549 dollars?

Pounds not dollars

It will probably be around £549 which roughly translates to $700, Not a direct currency conversion but I can see this pricing making sort of sense.

ALXAndy said:
Oi do you mind? We've got a Mini Cooper and it's actually quite spacious

Mini's are the tardus' of cars

Ayahuasca · 13 May 2015 at 15:54

Dicehunter said:
Pounds not dollars

Nah the article linked on the previous page said 549 dollars.

shankly1985 · 13 May 2015 at 15:55

opethdisciple said:
If AMD can deliver high performance GPUs, why cant they sort out their CPUs?

They releasing zen soon.

Dicehunter · 13 May 2015 at 15:57

Ayahuasca said:
Nah the article linked on the previous page said 549 dollars.

Ahh right then I can't see a $549 card beating or matching a $1000 card, Half way between a 980 and TX possibly but not beating it.

If it does then Nvidia will have no choice but to lower prices though as no one in their right mind is going to spend $450 more just for 4GB of extra memory.

bru · 13 May 2015 at 15:59

Ayahuasca said:
The hype is strong.

People really think they'll get a card that bests the TX for 549 dollars?

More to the point, if AMD can match the TitanX with HBM on 28nm, just think what NVidia will be able to do with HBM and a die shrink with Pascal.

Ayahuasca · 13 May 2015 at 15:59

To be honest the article is nonsense.

A 390x at $549 would be tiny profit margins and leave them hardly any room to budge if nVidia counter them. They'll end up stuck again like they are with the 2 series.

pmc25 · 13 May 2015 at 16:07

Ayahuasca said:
The hype is strong.

People really think they'll get a card that bests the TX for 549 dollars?

I've no idea how much the 390(not X) 4GB will cost, but unless it has a very large number or shaders shut down, it has a good chance of slaughtering the TX in Vulkan / DX12 in games not demanding huge amounts of VRAM. I think price of the 390X 4GB & 8GB will be reflective of their performance - i.e. quite high. If yields are good on the Fiji chip, we might not even see a 390 for some time, as I don't expect supply will be great.

I highly doubt a 390X 4GB will be $549 in the US, and nowhere near it in most of the rest of the world. 8GB might be almost double that; we've seen the shroud / cooler for it and it's clearly not going to be priced as a 'value' proposition. Even if the profit margin were decent at $549 for the 390X 4GB, it'd be bananas to price it so low given how fast it'll be, because they can't make huge marketshare gains, because there's no way that the HBM supply is that good yet.

Ayahuasca · 13 May 2015 at 16:09

Why exactly would it slaughter the TX in DX12?

Also can you show me a list of games using Vulkan, thanks.

pmc25 · 13 May 2015 at 16:16

Ayahuasca said:
Why exactly would it slaughter the TX in DX12?

Also can you show me a list of games using Vulkan, thanks.

I know you're trolling, but for the benefit of others - much of DX12 is based on the inner workings or principles of Mantle. It will benefit GCN far more. Maxwell was designed long before AMD released Mantle. Large parts of Vulkan effectively ARE Mantle.

That's easy. None. Like DX12. If you want a list of engines that will support it:

UE, Unity, Source, Frostbite, Oxide, CryEngine. That seems like all the big ones?

Freddie1980 · 13 May 2015 at 16:17

opethdisciple said:
If AMD can deliver high performance GPUs, why cant they sort out their CPUs?

Different teams, I would imagine most of the graphics team is still made up a lot of the old ATI team. The CPU division we know has had some important people come and go over the last 9 nine years and has been is disarray before the launch of Bulldozer. The other thing to remember is chip designs are several years in the making so once you start down a track in this type of environment it’s not straight forward change things at the last minute.

I would also imagine it’s easier to compete against Nvidia then it is Intel due to the relative R&D budgets and finances involved. Also are forever a process node ahead of their rivals and never allow anyone else to licence its manufacturing technology.

Marine-RX179 · 13 May 2015 at 16:18

Taking a step back...I think it would be silly if there's any Nvidia loyalists actually wishing the AMD not to do well on the 390x, cause even if they are never going to buy a AMD card in a million years, if the 390x do well and is priced aggressively, it would only mean it would forces Nvidia to not rip them off (too much) with the 980Ti 6GB. Just think back about price drop of the GTX780 when the 290/290x were launched!

So regardless of if belonging in the "green camp" or "red camp", EVERYONE should be wishing the 390x to be a great card at a great price

Ayahuasca · 13 May 2015 at 16:20

pmc25 said:
I know you're trolling, but for the benefit of others - much of DX12 is based on the inner workings or principles of Mantle. It will benefit GCN far more. Maxwell was designed long before AMD released Mantle. Large parts of Vulkan effectively IS Mantle.

That's easy. None. Like DX12.

I'm not trolling.

You just seem to be making up wild claims based on very little at all.