Ireland votes on gay marriage - why should I care?

Holy crap. What happened in here?! We went from yey equal rights for homosexuals to...actual child abusers now having that right?!
 
Holy crap. What happened in here?! We went from yey equal rights for homosexuals to...actual child abusers now having that right?!

The same arguments are already being used by people who want their "rights" to be recognised.

Whether you or I think something is morally wrong doesn't come into it in the brave new world.
 
The same arguments are already being used by people who want their "rights" to be recognised.

Whether you or I think something is morally wrong doesn't come into it in the brave new world.

Homosexuality is legal, paedophilia isn't and will never be for obvious reasons.

If you can't discuss things like an adult then go and play outside and let the adults debate.

I respect your right to think I lead a morally wrong life but stop comparing to me something that is illegal, it's sad to me that you think they are even on the same level.
 
Where did I say I was pro-incest. I said I have a live and let live attitude. What two consenting adults get up to isn't my concern.

Incest indifferent?

Homosexuality is legal, paedophilia isn't and will never be for obvious reasons.

I'm sure someone in the 'backwards 1950s' would say sex with animals would never be legal.
 
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I'm sure someone in the 'backwards 1950s' would say sex with animals would never be legal.

The argument of the ignorant, sex between two consenting adults is completely the same as abusing the trust of a creature or a person who is still developing and doesn't understand what sex is, right?

I'm done here.
 
The argument of the ignorant, sex between two consenting adults is completely the same as abusing the trust of a creature or a person who is still developing and doesn't understand what sex is, right?

I'm done here.

The argument is, what is crazy and illegal now, may not always be in the future.
 
The argument is, what is crazy and illegal now, may not always be in the future.

It is a ridiculously stupid argument though, there is a clear difference between consenting adults and an adult and a child who is unable to consent. The fact you think they a similar is quite frankly pathetic.
 
It is a ridiculously stupid argument though, there is a clear difference between consenting adults and an adult and a child who is unable to consent. The fact you think they a similar is quite frankly pathetic.

But who are you to say when a child can consent? As I have said, activists have for a long time being campaigning for the age of consent to be lowered.

Peter Tatchell has spoken of the joy of a friend having sex at the age of 9 with an adult.

Rejecting the argument as being "crazy" isn't any different from me rejecting the idea of "gay marriage" as crazy.

I personally think all the arguments in favour of "gay marriage" are just preposterous.

 
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Why can't we ever have a discussion on gay rights without it being derailed into paedophilia? It had no bearing in the debate at all.

There are straight paedophiles, but that never stopped straight marriage.
 
But who are you to say when a child can consent? As I have said, activists have for a long time being campaigning for the age of consent to be lowered.

Peter Tatchell has spoken of the joy of a friend having sex at the age of 9 with an adult.

Rejecting the argument as being "crazy" isn't any different from me rejecting the idea of "gay marriage" as crazy.

Your pitiful attempt to hide your hatred and frustrations behind child abuse is not fooling anyone.
 
Why can't we ever have a discussion on gay rights without it being derailed into paedophilia? It had no bearing in the debate at all.

There are straight paedophiles, but that never stopped straight marriage.

I don't think anyone has suggested conflating homosexuals with paedophiles.

The point being made is that the same arguments in favour of "gay rights" are also valid when talking about the rights of other sexual minorities.
 
I don't think anyone has suggested conflating homosexuals with paedophiles.

The point being made is that the same arguments in favour of "gay rights" are also valid when talking about the rights of other sexual minorities.

No one had down and out said it. But every we have a thread on gay rights, peadophillia is brought up. Why always child abuse?

If you want to make comparisons, use something comparable. Something that, like that marriage, is between consenting adults.
 
Because some people are brought up/have ingrained in them that its Weird/Immoral.
Same way some people cant joke about death.
Ignorance mostly, Ignorance of i don't know what though :P

Same ways pedophilia is currently "unfashionable" Since children have been given a legal/lawful age in society. Historically as we all know its been very different. I'm sure in another 100 or 200 years it will be looked at differently too. Why is it associated with Homos? No clue? Ignorance? Most rapists are men. So all men are rapists.

So now same sex marriage is protected by law its getting put through the mangle. In 50 years no ones going to care. Its just the cusp of change people cant deal with. Our kids, kids wont give it a second thought.

Of all the things to be disgusted and freaked out by same sex marriage seems like the most ridiculous and irrelevant.

Age of consent also should be 13 i think. Seems more inline with the development of most modern children. Then that will have legal ramifications and probably mean they have responsibility for their actions under criminal law too.
 
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Care to actually argue against the point being made then?

You're not making any points, you're just showing classical signs of psychological repression. In example, your obsession to link homosexuality to pedophilia is not rational so it can be explained by repressed thoughts/insticts which lie deep in your subconscious.

This is common among homophobes so you're nothing special.
 
The point being made is that the same arguments in favour of "gay rights" are also valid when talking about the rights of other sexual minorities.

Probably, yes, but any that are illegal and/or infringe on the rights of children (<16 year olds) or any non consensual person in the arrangement then they wont be considered legal/lawful.
 
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