May 25th.. the day my whole world crumbled

Very sorry dude, I would have crumbled, no warning at all is messed up.

Even if you have done something wrong, not having the chance to put it right is what would upset me.

Stay strong if possible.

Hats off to you for keeping it ammicable, in these circumstances, not sure I could keep my emotions in check.

If there is another dude, send the OcUK beacon into the sky, surely we can find him?
 
Seems she's a ''grass is greener'' type of woman (Which ones aren't heh) I wouldn't even be amicable with her tbh. Its patently obvious she's either A) Met and had sex with someone else or B) She has her eyes on another guy she thinks is oh so perfect for her. Unfortunately she holds all the power and she knows this, she knows she can get rid of you and you'll still be around for the rest of her life due to your child, when whatever is happening with her and this other guy falls to pieces you bet your ass she'll use you as an emotional punch bag.

Have to agree with this 100%. She wouldn't be doing this unless she had a fallback option.
 
how bad was the xmas gift?

User name + Joke = predictable, but this is GD after all.

The advice above is the way it reads to me as well. I think any parent in your situation would obviously feel gutted about not seeing your daughter each day/night, but remember it's not about quantity, it's about quality. Perhaps look into mediation so you can get the access situation agreed via a 3rd party, it's not legally binding but it would help if it does go legal in the future.

I had an ex do something similar with little/no warning. She was seemingly a nice, normal and well adjusted person and we'd been together a good few years, so when she turned round and said she didn't feel it was working out I was a little surprised if i'm honest. She explained that as she didn't want to argue or fall out with me she was staying at a friends for a few days and had sorted a new place and hadn't told me until then. I don't know if she was expecting me to boot her out or something but the next day or so was a bit awkward. She took the car i'd purchased/insured/taxed/fixed for 'us' and let her use as i'd got something newer due to a change of job so off it went along with the motorbike i'd given her 18 months earlier, again as they were gifts I was OK with that.

She still kept in touch/popped round every few months as she still wanted to be friends - she'd always got on OK with previous ex's so this wasn't unusual. When I got together with with my now wife as she'd been my best female friend for 10 years they knew each other so I figured i'd do the reasonable thing and tell her privately that we were now together rather than just let her find out via someone else. She was fine with it and got back with her ex so I figured it was all good. 6 months later she was due to come round again so I had a quiet word and explained that we were expecting our first child, she was again fine about it and came round later on as planned and congratulated us both.

Within 24hrs I had a demand for 50% of everything.

Get some advice, many charities exist to offer advice to parents in your situation - some operate helplines and they would be where i'd start first as they deal with access/custody issues so can advise you on what to do/avoid doing and possibly suggest ways to improve things long term. You can also usually get free consultations with a solicitor who can suggest what's best to do/where to start.
 
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As others have said it sounds like signs of being cheated on unfortunately. Personally would give her the boot if she is even considering leaving, just be prepared to fight for custody of your daughter if you have to.
 
Talk.

Find out what exactly is the problem and then talk some more.

If there has been an affair find out why it has happened and then talk some more.

Decide what you want, find out what she really wants and then go from there.

Keep talking, it will still be incredibly raw and a little time might change perspective.
 
I went through pretty much this exact scenario in 2003. I am going to give you some general advise based upon my personal experience; take from it what you wish.

1. Reconcile if possible. If you love her and there is any possibility that the marriage can be salvaged then try that before any of the other options.

2. If can't be salvaged then you must do everything you can to protect your interests. Your natural inclination will be to give her everything and make her life as easy as possible for your child. Don't do that. You need to protect your interests because you need to rebuild your life and you'll have enough emotional baggage for a while as it is, without financial baggage as well.

So...

3. If the house is jointly owned, DO NOT move out. Under any circumstances. Insist that it is sold and split any equity equally between you. Do not leave the house until it's sold and contracts are exchanged. If you're renting then you can ignore this paragraph entirely.

4. Calculate 15% of your net salary. This is the amount the CSA will require you to pay for one child. Do not pay this to her until such time as you have both left the house and do not give her a penny more. You can obviously treat your child as you see fit (clothes, trips etc.) and contribute to school outings if appropriate.

5. If you have any debts in your name (excluding the mortgage) that you assumed for the betterment of your family's life and you have savings, then use whatever savings you have to pay that off. Don't discuss with your wife, just do it. Otherwise, she'll get half of any cash and you'll be left with the debt. Wise up. This part is super important to your future.

6. Agree a reasonable pattern of childcare. If you fight over childcare in Court, unless your circumstances are exceptional you are most likely to be awarded alternate weekends and half of all holidays. Christmas to alternate. Suggest that to start with and have it detailed in any subsequent Divorce agreement.

7. Regardless of the reason for her decision, regardless of how you feel, regardless of whether she provokes you, you must never lose your temper with your wife. Especially in front of your child. You must never bad mouth your wife to or in front of your child. You must never use your child as a weapon or source of intelligence. From this point on, you must become Mr Reasonable but Firm. You will thank me for this when it gets to Court.

8. Constant reassurance for the child. They will want to know why you left, it's OK to say that Mummy and Daddy don't love each other any more, but that you love the child very much. Constantly reinforce this because it is going to be very difficult period for them.

9. Don't be surprised if your wife turns into a Harpy during divorce proceedings. Legal advice by its nature is adversarial - because it makes more money for them.

There's loads more I could say, but that's a start.

Oh, and I realise that you feel your World has ended, but really it hasn't. There is life for you after this. I happily remarried and have gone on to have three boys. Just give yourself time to work through all of this and keep a sense of perspective. Your child still loves you, it doesn't matter if your wife doesn't.

Keep calm and good luck.
 
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So, she's been unhappy since Christmas but didn't have the decency to tell you or talk to you about how she was feeling?
That sucks.
 
but i know i am not the only one in this position, and if so guys..
does it get easier?
i fear i will lose my relationship with my daughter and that potential "2nd daddy" will takeover?

It absolutely does get easier. But it takes time. How long depends on how you can handle difficult emotional times, it really does vary but there are ways out there to help cope with it. Keep yourself busy and don't self loath or try to blame yourself.

Your daughter will never stop loving you, and you'll always be the number 1 dad in her eyes.

i know that, i clocked that straight away.

Unless you know for absolute certainty then you don't know and going down this path will get very ugly with you both feeling a lot worse.

You should sit down and talk about this and respect her feelings, there's no shame in saying how you feel and asking to discuss this as adults is normal, a relationship goes both ways and if one wants to end it your at least due an explanation. If she is certain it is what she wants there is nothing you can do or try to change this, you will have to try and come to terms with it.

There's no such thing as an 'Amicable' Divorce, doesn't matter if you have 'Nothing' now... It's later on it'll bite you.

I'd be as ****ing ruthless as possible with her, go see a Solicitor now! I can guarantee she's already been to see one. Make sure you get access to your kid LEGALLY recognised. You might think she's not going to screw you over, but once her Solicitors and 'Friends' get involved it'll be a completely different story.

Of course there are amicable divorces each relationship is different but I would strongly suggest the great post and advice from George 5 posts above mine.

Sorry to hear what you're going through OP.
 
Get a solicitor and make it clear that you are prepared to make things work but she isn't. If you can find out who she's (probably) seeing then all the better.

Seriously, whatever her intentions now you can bet that they'll change. A similar thing happened to a friend of mine and he ended up not seeing his son for 14 years (until the son was old enough to ignore the mother and see him anyway). No matter what court orders are in place, the parent with custody can force the other partner out of the child's life and you'll still be forced to pay maintenance.
 
3. If the house is jointly owned, DO NOT move out. Under any circumstances. Insist that it is sold and split any equity equally between you. Do not leave the house until it's sold and contracts are exchanged. If you're renting then you can ignore this paragraph entirely.

The best advice the OP is ever going to get is in this post, in particular i like this point.

I can't stand it when the guy leaves when a split happens as it weakens their position immeasurably. When i was going through my divorce i stood my ground and stayed as well, she ended up the one leaving. No one told me too it just didn't seem right giving her the upper hand. Although in my case we didn't have kids so our case was much simpler.
 
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