Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[Ayahuasca]

After seeing scaling in some titles with 2 cards there's no way I'd risk 3 or 4.

I'll be staying single card till I see big improvements with SLI/CF. I still get the feeling both sides aren't really bothered by it as it's a tiny percent of their customers.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

After seeing scaling in some titles with 2 cards there's no way I'd risk 3 or 4.

I'll be staying single card till I see big improvements with SLI/CF. I still get the feeling both sides aren't really bothered by it as it's a tiny percent of their customers.

Completely agree, it shouldn't matter if it's a small percent of users, since the option is there to use it then it should work perfectly, even if the scaling was just above 50% for 2 cards and not 100% even i would be interested.

 

[nashathedog]

The first two was just told they will get a low level port, i'm not sure
Dice will go the Vulkan path, but as that's basicly the same as mantle, they have an easy task to port. So thats nothing to do with DX12 or W10.

Does Nvidia support and run Vulkan then?

 

[nashathedog]

I doubt it, there's a lot of nonsense posted about vram requirements. Time again people fail to get that seeing a card use 5GB of vram does not mean only having 4GB will have any performance impact in a given scenario.

I note Witcher 3 on high res at 4k uses about 2.5GB for me.

Didn't the ram usage of Witcher 3 change considerably with patch 4 or 5?

Besides that, using a single games ram requirement is not the way to gauge whether 4 gb's will be enough or not.

 

[Phixsator]

I have a guy picking up my 780 tomorrow for 210..which gives me a total of 600 to spend on whatever awwsome sauce thats coming.. bring on the goodies.

 

[Mtom]

Does Nvidia support and run Vulkan then?

Vulkan is not restricted to one manufacturer like mantle. It is handled by khronos group, and it is basicly an evolved and open mantle.

 

[McShave]

It still amazes me that people completely bypassed the whole Korean monitor thing. I don't want the thread to go off topic here but I got my Qnix 1440p monitor nearly three years ago. Overclocks to 120 hz, no dead pixels £200. Yet here we are years later (ok not 144hz) but still peeps trembling over the price tag for a £370 screen.

 

[Combat squirrel]

It still amazes me that people completely bypassed the whole Korean monitor thing. I don't want the thread to go off topic here but I got my Qnix 1440p monitor nearly three years ago. Overclocks to 120 hz, no dead pixels £200. Yet here we are years later (ok not 144hz) but still peeps trembling over the price tag for a £370 screen.

What monitor was it that did 120hz overclock you got ? (model number)

 

[McShave]

What monitor was it that did 120hz overclock you got ? (model number)

It was the QX2710 LED Evolution Ⅱ 27" 2560x1440. I'm not gonna lie it's a bit of a pain to go through the whole process of overclocking it eveytime time you install a new driver (last year was every month). But for the price it was well worth it.

Which actually is a real pain if these Fiji cards turn out to be amazing, seeing as the Qnix monitors only use dual-DVI and the Fiji cards apparently have dropped that connection. It's just one more nudge towards the 980ti for me, unless AMD really pull something out of the bag, and it will have to be something really special.

 

[drunkenmaster]

It was the QX2710 LED Evolution Ⅱ 27" 2560x1440. I'm not gonna lie it's a bit of a pain to go through the whole process of overclocking it eveytime time you install a new driver (last year was every month). But for the price it was well worth it.

Which actually is a real pain if these Fiji cards turn out to be amazing, seeing as the Qnix monitors only use dual-DVI and the Fiji cards apparently have dropped that connection. It's just one more nudge towards the 980ti for me, unless AMD really pull something out of the bag, and it will have to be something really special.

I did almost buy one of those panels but at the time it was all order from abroad/ebay and wouldn't be sure how far it would overclock, etc. My main problem is eyes/migraines. I'm stupidly sensitive, I still get loads of migraines anyway but I've had better and worse monitors that certainly have an effect. I like my monitor and was really waiting for a bigger upgrade. 3-4 years ago I figured 1-2 years for 4k/120hz and maybe OLED as well(which is always a year away from full production ).

Really I'm waiting for a good value but actually rated as 120hz+ simply higher res and bigger size screen than I have. I'll buy when the prices make sense, £700 is nuts. £370 I think is over the top.

Basically starting off at a 23" 1080p 120hz+ screen at £150, £50-100 more will get you a 144hz/27"/1080p screen OR a 60hz/27"/1440p screen, yet combining the best of both triples the price? Seriously, **** off Asus, and frankly consumers stupid enough to pay it which only encourages monitor companies to continue ripping us off.

I'd honestly quite happily pay £300 for something that is as standard 120-144hz and a more reputable brand where I can get replacements quickly and easily with a company I know better. But I'm not willing to pay an absurd amount for that.

 

[Poneros]

Why are you so convinced they're trying to rip you off? What do you know about the economics of monitor production? Right.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Why are you so convinced they're trying to rip you off? What do you know about the economics of monitor production? Right.

27" 1080p 60hz £160

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-083-BQ&groupid=17&catid=1120


27" 1080p 144hz £260
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-121-IY&groupid=17&catid=1120

28" 4k £260

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-076-DE&groupid=17&catid=1120

27" 1440p 60hz £270

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-070-AC&groupid=17&catid=1120

27" 1440p 144hz £630 (now, £700 at launch)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-070-AS&groupid=17&catid=948


Now try and think, resolution upgrade costs £100, doubling refresh rate costs £100, having both together = £540 increase in cost for a £700 launch price. You have to be plain daft to think they are doing anything other than ripping you off. Even at that price sales weren't great because it was dropped constantly everywhere within a few months to £550-650 price range in sales to get them shifted.

Acer now have a basically identical spec(non g-sync version) monitor that goes frequently around the £370 mark. 3 years ago companies were making panels and scalers that were good enough to be overclocked to 120hz but monitor makers were busy trying to sell everyone 60hz versions so they could later sell them another panel with 120hz, why sell one monitor when you can sell someone two.

The panels and scalers were without even intentional trying to... good enough to support these rates YEARS ago at less than half the price they suddenly started trying to sell these latest versions. Also yes, I know likely a lot more about monitor production than you think I do and I would presume a lot more than you do.

Monitor makers have been dragging their heels for years and years because ultimately if they started selling 1440p 120hz+ panels 3 years ago at good prices... what would they sell today? 120hz is better for ALL users of screens, people who game, people who browse the web and never touch a game. Every single new resolution now is trickle fed specifically going after the premium gaming features and charging the earth for what is now very old and simple technology.

The equivalent of the monitor industry would be Nvidia/AMD launching the next gen 14nm cards with a bunch of current things missing. Double the shaders of current cards(increasing res) but remove things like DX11 support, remove g-sync/freesync support. Still having the high cost, then let those cards get cheaper and sell a 'new' part by adding basically the same spec card but it now supports DX11, then sell a new card with both DX11 and *sync.

We went to 120hz with 1080p panels, 1440p should be 120hz almost straight away... I mean 4k panels coming with 30hz a lot of the time, it's laughable.

Monitor companies push one spec forward but take three steps back, then charge you more again for each 'new' (but actually really old and standard) feature again.

Resolution is the frankly biggest problem in terms of production and yields. Pixel density is the 'hard' part of the monitor making industry, scalers are a joke, you're talking about $5 chips that if you want a really fancy one you're doubling the cost to $10, a small pcb, simple electronics. The complexity and cost comes from panel production. The technology to make pixels that can refresh at 120hz or more is done and dusted technology, a 1440p panel merely has more of them. There is no technology barrier in making a 1440p panel able to operate at 120-144hz as opposed toa 1080p panel, it's the exact same technology. The cost is in producing the panels which higer pixel density or size increases production costs.

 

[regulus]

Pretty much as above, not bothered by 4k, 1080p is what I game at currently, 1440p a possibility in the future, but other than that the only major consideration is VR. Which 4GB is enough, it's all about the grunt beyond that.

Agreed. I've had a look at 1440p and I 'might' upgrade to it next year. It weren't the big thing it was all hyped to be.

I think people just like buying new things for the sake of buying .. new things

 

[humbug]

Still on my IPS 226 1080P, years old but very good, i run some games at 1440P and 1800P using VSR, it defiantly makes a difference to IQ so i see no point in going for 1440P yet, not until they come down to a reasonable price or i actually need a new screen.

 

[Geck0]

It was the QX2710 LED Evolution Ⅱ 27" 2560x1440. I'm not gonna lie it's a bit of a pain to go through the whole process of overclocking it eveytime time you install a new driver (last year was every month). But for the price it was well worth it.

Which actually is a real pain if these Fiji cards turn out to be amazing, seeing as the Qnix monitors only use dual-DVI and the Fiji cards apparently have dropped that connection. It's just one more nudge towards the 980ti for me, unless AMD really pull something out of the bag, and it will have to be something really special.

+1 I've had mine since I bought my R9 290 non X reference on launch and it runs at 120 all day long, no issues whatsoever apart from the **** bezel.

I'm a bit ticked off with the whole no dual link DVI thing with Fiji but as it stands I won't jump early and will see what Sapphire or one of the other quality AIB's bring to the table. My customised ref 290 on a 140mm AIO has plenty of legs even at 1440 in most games, here's a link to my mod with the heatsink baked off the baseplate, very cool VRM's

http://www.overclock.net/t/1453555/quick-guide-for-the-disassembly-and-re-use-of-amd-290-reference-cooler-as-vrm-ram-heatsink/80#post_23312524

 

[FinglisHobbit]

I agree with the post about the Korean Monitors. I have a 27in 1440p PCBANK and have had it since 2012. Its absolutely brilliant. I cant believe its taken so long for high refresh rate 1440p to become mainstream. Its actually quite a joke.

 

[flopper]

I agree with the post about the Korean Monitors. I have a 27in 1440p PCBANK and have had it since 2012. Its absolutely brilliant. I cant believe its taken so long for high refresh rate 1440p to become mainstream. Its actually quite a joke.

Mainly due to slow uptake of displayport and such support.
DVI simply was standard to long.

Not sure what to do soon since when all cards are out the 16 then I guess I go play golf and get a tan in the sun.

 

[harney]

 

[Orangey]

You fail at memes.

 

[cainer]

You fail at memes.

+1