Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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The character on the far right of that pic whose name eludes me - why does she need a double?! Her character has been rather useless for most of the season from what I recall.
 
Kainz said:
The character on the far right of that pic whose name eludes me - why does she need a double?! Her character has been rather useless for most of the season from what I recall.
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I thought I'd explain why almost all characters would have a double :).

Basically it boils down to cost (my film professor said that there are two motivations in life, sex and money and Hollywood is no different), the cost here being the cost of an actor vs the cost of a double. Dinklage is expensive, his double is not.

Doubles are cast because they look similar (in terms of height, weight, skin colour and face similarity) and because to keep costs down actors are only used when absolutely necessary (anything closer than a mid shot usually). The majority of shots where characters have their backs to camera, are out of focus, etcetera will be double work. They are different to say a stunt double, but sometimes overlap.
 
Thanks for that insight Tummy, I would never have known although thinking about it then it seems obvious.
 
It's a clever idea isn't? It's also a useful technique for when the actor concerned has actually died during the making of the film, like Oliver Reed in The Gladiator.
 
Bubo said:
It's a clever idea isn't? It's also a useful technique for when the actor concerned has actually died during the making of the film, like Oliver Reed in The Gladiator.
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Given how relatively inexpensive computer graphics are now, this is probably more common than people think (not in relation to an actor passing away) but that if you have an actor for whatever reason cannot be on set that day but has no dialogue, you can use a double to stand in and then digitally alter the face.
 
I agree. For example, in the scene where Aemon Targaryan is cremated, if it wasn't for CGI being able to superimpose the face of the actor onto the head of a mannequin, they would have had no alternative but to sacrifice Peter Vaughan.
 
No, not really the same. That would be considered a stunt, albeit a very small scale one.

I mean, if an actor is unavailable and is needed in a scene, they will use their body double and either keep them out of focus so there is less effects needed (and could potentially get away with make up) or use computer graphics to change the face. Their pose, height, body shape and skin colour would all be similar due to the casting.
 
Bubo said:
I agree. For example, in the scene where Aemon Targaryan is cremated, if it wasn't for CGI being able to superimpose the face of the actor onto the head of a mannequin, they would have had no alternative but to sacrifice Peter Vaughan.
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It would have been a noble cause.
 
Body doubles are used for setting lights, decorations, camera settings, crops and angles, arranging stage motion so actors don't collide with equipment or dolly tracks during shoot, adjusting audio microphones, line reading for extras and supporting actors, crowd rehearsals, etc - that kind of stuff.
It rare for a double (other than stunt double) to be used in the actual shoot of final footage instead of real cast, unless the actor in question is genuinely unobtainable at the time (dead or last minute retake while the star is shooting another scene on the other side of the world).

With shows like GoT main cast is usually paid per episode of a seasonal contract split into several tiers and it's also common for all of them within tier (main cast, main supporting cast, supporting cast, re-occurring regulars etc) to negotiate identical group deal regardless of how much time it takes to prepare as individual, and as you can imagine, within last episode production alone, Kit probably worked much harder and longer for his money than Emilia.
 
Well this is defintiely hotting up. No doubt it has been said but the series has now overtaken the books and this season has seen some pretty significant deviations from the plot in the books too.

I'm quite interested to see how Martin brngs this altogether in his work especially as the series will clearly be finished before even the next book is out in paperback.

As to the plot I do hope Dany isn't the hero I can't stand her. Also I hope the Sparrow and his thugs get their commupence, I dislike the idea of warrior churches beholden to nothing but their faith.
 
I can kind of picture the Sparrow and the other believers blindly walking towards the dragons presuming the seven will save them as they go up in dragonflame. I am enjoying the series now and that it is showing new stuff. The threat in the north has been so background till now but it is quite clear the task they will face. I guess it also means that all the people who wield the old swords will have significant parts to play in that part of the battle.
 
Xordium said:
I can kind of picture the Sparrow and the other believers blindly walking towards the dragons presuming the seven will save them as they go up in dragonflame. I am enjoying the series now and that it is showing new stuff. The threat in the north has been so background till now but it is quite clear the task they will face. I guess it also means that all the people who wield the old swords will have significant parts to play in that part of the battle.
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all three people then!
 
PlacidCasual said:
As to the plot I do hope Dany isn't the hero I can't stand her. Also I hope the Sparrow and his thugs get their commupence, I dislike the idea of warrior churches beholden to nothing but their faith.
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This is one time I'm rooting for Cersei Lannister, and I so want to see her get her revenge on "that woman" :)
 
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