The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

So you don't want kids?!?! I don't see what the problem is. I am 31 and I don't want kids either. I've started seeing someone new and I haven't told her I don't want kids. And I am?!?!....nope!! Unless I have to if we are still together years down the line. For now I am enjoying my time with her and keeping my mouth shut:)

You need to get off your backside and find new friends or keep in touch with current friends. These are the people who keep you happy and mind off your ex, if you have no friends then you will continue feeling this way.

You need a new partner, yes someone who is better than your ex and will not bring you down to their level. Once you have a good session at the gym, like over the weekend, get yourself ready for night out socialising. The fact you have been to the gym earlier that day will boot your confidence.

There are plenty of people out their will suit you perfectly, you just need to find them. They will NOT come to you!

You are 30 years old. YOU ARE IN YOUR PRIME FOR NEW RELATIONSHIPS. You are at the mature age where you know what you want women wise. A man in their 30’s with no kids is a god send to many women, as you don’t come with baggage and the decent women will take dating you seriously. So you will attract women with no kids either, from my experience those are the ones you need to get with. But if you are walking around with emotional baggage such as your ex then many will see this and you would have blown your chances finding someone new without you knowing it.

So you really need to move on and stop being tied down to the past, as for the job. Get searching and search HARD for a new one, get yourself into a job you can bare, not necessary like then move on up from there. Start creating opportunities for yourself.

I agree with most of this

That's incredibly selfish unless you think you may change your mind. Even then isn't it easier to be honest and find someone who shares your views on kids?

Except this
I'd never date someone who definitely wanted kids of I know I definitely don't. It would be a waste of everyones time, emotions etc. There is no happy ending here
 
That's incredibly selfish unless you think you may change your mind. Even then isn't it easier to be honest and find someone who shares your views on kids?

That's a little full on when you've only just started dating somebody don't you think?

If a girl said that on our first few dates I'd run the opposite direction pronto. :)
 
That is literally the only thing Women respect in a relationship, a male who behaves like a Man. If you let them get away with the kind of behaviour that Kris does they'll treat you like a doormat

I'm no man and I'm doing ok. :p

Just make sure you have a backbone. I find far too many guys in a relationship back down at the first sign of trouble. Stand your ground!
 
That's a little full on when you've only just started dating somebody don't you think?

If a girl said that on our first few dates I'd run the opposite direction pronto. :)

I discussed kids on my first date with my current girlfriend as if she wanted multiple kids or them soon I wasn't the man for her. Once you're dating women in their 30's it seems selfish to waste their time/fertility as if you only discuss kids after a year or two then it limits their options as they'll probably want a couple of years to assess a man before breeding.
 
I discussed kids on my first date with my current girlfriend as if she wanted multiple kids or them soon I wasn't the man for her. Once you're dating women in their 30's it seems selfish to waste their time/fertility as if you only discuss kids after a year or two then it limits their options as they'll probably want a couple of years to assess a man before breeding.

So you avoid dating women in their 30's and date the women who fit into the 18 to 25 year old age bracket :p

Dont have to worry about their biological clock then...:)
 
I will definitely be looking for below 30 women. When you don't want kids 30 all of a sudden does feel a lot older

In trying to find motivation to do anything but no luck thus far :-\
I dunno how to make friends when I don't want any
 
Fortunately this isn't me, but I need some advice on how to handle a close family member's relationship that is one step away from a Jeremy Kyle episode.

I don't want to go into too much detail but they entered their relationship for all the wrong reasons many years ago, got married, then divorced 2 years after. In that time he was not allowed/wouldn't speak to family or friends and even attempted suicide a few times because of how controlling she was (but she was next of kin so we rarely found out about this). After they broke up he started a new job (was fired from the last one, wife didn't want him leaving the house!), moved further away and he started a road to recovery where he was happy, talkative, joking and was at many family functions which he wasn't allowed to attend before.

It's been a good couple of years, unfortunately he let slip he was still in contact with his ex-wife but they were "just friends" and nothing was going to happen. He got quieter, phone calls were missed, was too busy to see family and attendance to some milestone parties was questioned when he wasn't sure if he could make it, basically lying about why he was too busy. We found out from a friend (in a very upsetting way, part of the Jeremy Kyle plot) that they are back together.

When he was kicked out the parents had to pick up the pieces to get him back on his feet and now he's gone back to her, this week already she's tried to destroy another marriage (the friend) with accusations over a past friendship because she (evil ex-wife) has trust issues (JK warning: she cheated on her husband to be with my family member), but still wants him in her life to control and is willing to upset as many people as she needs to for this.

We were supposed to be meeting him for a party this weekend (but he's too busy "working" to see us before/after it all weekend, he's not told us he's back with her), but being 200 miles away it's not easy just to drop in to see how he's doing (the family events are all near where he lives, so it's us visiting him rather than him visiting us).

We're honestly stuck and don't know what to do, and it's very upsetting to hear his own parent cry saying he would have been better off succeeding with one of his attempts at topping himself than putting everyone through all this again due to the months of recovery it took to get him back on his feet, which he's throwing away for the same woman.

If I'd killed her before the wedding when all this started, I'd be out in 3 years time :(
 
You all sound a bit controlling!

In short, there is nothing you can do or should do other than just be there to support him whatever his decisions in life. After all it is his life and is free to do as he chooses. If he is unhappy in his relationship then it is his own choice to get out of that relationship should he want to. Regardless if the whole family thinks it's a mistake, he should be allowed to make those mistakes and learn from them himself without being left to feel like he is being pulled and torn by everyone around him.

By the way it sounds from what you're saying, the family is as much of the problem as she is in his life. All this suggestion of killing her and parents in favour of him topping himself to put him out his misery all sounds a bit..... Weird? Does she not have any redeeming features in the first place for him to want to be so devoted to her, or is this guy really such a twig of a man?

Live and let live though!
 
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I know this sounds a bit controlling from the side of the family, as every time he gets kicked out of the house they've had to make the 200 mile trip to collect his things, find shelter so he can keep on trying to work and try to show there's more to being a prisoner in her house. Then a few days later she gets her claws back in and he has to go back. They've never stopped him but as you say, he's his own man but she has a habit of going nuts and kicking him out.

The parents are distraught at the thought she's back in his life, the reason why they're so upset now is this ex-wife has taken it upon herself to start emailing any of his old female friends with kids demanding to know about his prior relationships, if they were ever involved and one of them called the police when this ex-wife demanded a paternity test from another family on the off chance that child could have been his even though they weren't even together at that time! She's going around destroying marriages that have nothing to do with her to test his trust.

It might sound a bit weird from the outside as there's far more to this, the only thing I can compare it to is a cancer that was destroying him over years that we finally thought was under control when she wanted a divorce, he was happier again, visiting friends/family and doing really well at work... but for some reason she's back and he won't talk to anyone again, but it's affecting far more people due to her selfish actions and trust issues.

The only reason we can think of why he's gone back is because he could, he helped raise her child from a previous marriage from a very young age and probably feels he has a responsibility to care for the child (the child's father still sees them every week). Apart from this she doesn't really have any features that makes her special, just emotional attachment.
 
That is literally the only thing Women respect in a relationship, a male who behaves like a Man. If you let them get away with the kind of behaviour that Kris does they'll treat you like a doormat

*tips fedora whilst reading PUA advice from reddit*

As a general bit of disclaimer to the above and to those who are going through relationship issues and/or just need a hug, Roar87 is wrong. It says far more about his mindset and the people ('Women' - why the capitalisation?) he meets than it does about anything else.

To paint over 50% of the world's population as only respecting the one thing they are not is stupid. It's infantile. It's finger pointing at its worst.

So probably don't do that is the point I'm making.

Also, *hugs* to all :)
 
I know this sounds a bit controlling from the side of the family, as every time he gets kicked out of the house they've had to make the 200 mile trip to collect his things, find shelter so he can keep on trying to work and try to show there's more to being a prisoner in her house. Then a few days later she gets her claws back in and he has to go back. They've never stopped him but as you say, he's his own man but she has a habit of going nuts and kicking him out.

There's a couple of choices. First, some kind of intervention and getting him to see some kind of mental health professional so that he can understand how his behaviour is self destructive and how he's being mentally abused by his ex. This will only work if he cuts off all contact with his ex, completely and forever.

Second choice is to cut him free. His family treats him as the toxic one who's always making his own bad choices, and they shouldn't have to deal with it any more. Let him live the life he chooses or hit rock bottom as necessary. Like a junkie who's always going back for another fix and destroying the friends and family who love him, they have to cut him out of their lives for their own sanity, and he has to choose who is more important in his life.
 
[FnG]magnolia;28133099 said:
*tips fedora whilst reading PUA advice from reddit*

As a general bit of disclaimer to the above and to those who are going through relationship issues and/or just need a hug, Roar87 is wrong. It says far more about his mindset and the people ('Women' - why the capitalisation?) he meets than it does about anything else.

To paint over 50% of the world's population as only respecting the one thing they are not is stupid. It's infantile. It's finger pointing at its worst.

So probably don't do that is the point I'm making.

Also, *hugs* to all :)

Ok then, I don't go on Reddit I go on Bodybuilding.com, I haven't looked at any PUA stuff in over 6 years and have been in a relationship for 4. Women do not respect men who allow themselves to be treated like the guy I quoted, if you're cool with your girlfriend rolling in at 8:30am after spending the night with other guys then you may as well provide her with wine and condoms for her next "girls night out".

Edit: Ironically you're a "big fan of mumsnet". I think the only advice you should be giving on relationships is where to get your girlfriend emergency tampons from
 
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Guys I need your advice. I've been debating if I should post this or not but I need to talk to someone about it and I'm afraid of being judged by my friends. It's gonna be long winded but I've got to get it out.

I'm 27 my fiance is 25. We've been together 6 years in September, we met in college, I left the year after but we kept in touch, met up and it went from there :) He's just so sweet, kind, thoughtful and handsome. He was there for me without question when my Mum died. My Dad has COPD and twice he's been in hospital with pneumonia and I've driven up there to be with hime, come home early hours of the morning for a quick sleep and woken up to find my fiancee cleaning for me downstairs. We're very compatible, love our video games and collecting things. If I had to use a word to describe our relationship I honestly would have picked 'perfect' :D

My only niggle was that we never went out much. His friend who is in the navy would come home periodically through the year and he would go out with him for a drink. My point would always be "your friend likes going out and so do I, you'll go with him but not me, c'mon lets go for a drink" but he'd always reply that he didn't like going out but it was the only way he'd ever get to see his friend so he did it.

He asked me to marry him Christmas Eve 2013, even went shopping to pick the ring himself I couldn't belive it. We've been saving for a deposit for a house and almost have enough we're just waiting for him to find a permanant job, he's been getting 6month ones so far.

Christmas just gone we went to a party at his friend from his old jobs house. This guy is like 50, married, and other staff memebers were there. He thought a lot of them so I was happy to meet them. We were having a good time and my fiance went to the toilet. The guy hosting came back and said my fiancee was asking for 'wacky baccy' (sp?) outside and I thought he was joking. Fiancee comes back in and says no one had any and yeah he smokes it.

I was so hurt. He knew how I feel about drugs I don't like them, but he feels there's nothing wrong because his mum and his dad smoke weed too. The next day talking about it he said he only ever does it about 3 times a year when he's out with his mate from the navy and their other school friends. I told him how I felt and said that I didn't want him doing drugs anymore and he said okay. After that we were fine.

Not long later he went to a house party, I asked him the next day did he take anything, he said no. Then he said he sniffed some 'poppers' that his friend got from the SPAR. I was fuming! You don't know what's in them, it's going straight to your brain he could have had a reaction and instantly died! He argued the case saying I said no weed, when I know I said no nothing.

Since then it's not been the same, especially these last few weeks. His mate is home from the navy and has bought a house in the next town. For the last two/three weeks he's stayed at my house as usual (Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat night) but he's been going to his mates Mums to help him pack or to hang out. We both went out 3 weeks ago on what I thought was a date evening, went for a meal, few drinks, figured we were going to get merry and get the last train home. Barely 3 hours in he gets a text and tells me we're meeting his friend. I was stunned like "why has he got to be involved in everything I was hoping for some time alone with you" He said "You're always going on about how you want to all hang out together" I said "yes when I know about it beforehand I thought it was just us tonight. Anyway I decided to make the most of it and enjoyed the rest of my night.

Since then he's gone to Alton Towers with him (before the smiler incident!), been to his house numerous times. But last Friday he stayed at his mates, when Friday is normally our night we get junk food and watch Agents of Shield. He normally helps me with my dads shopping on a Saturday but said he had agreed to go to another friends house. I was crying down the phone I just felt like he wasn't willing to make this work, I felt we could only try if we were actually with eachother but it feels like he's avoiding me. He came back here and said that he'd asked one of his friends from school for some weed.

We discussed that he feels like he's changed, he used to wear this hat it was like a comfort blanket or something he was never without it but doesn't wear it anymore. I've sat here in tears with him offering him his half of the savings back, offering the ring back, saying 'sorry but I can't be with someone who takes drugs'

I know there will be people here that don't have a problem with drugs which is fine. I don't know you and don't care if you do them or not but I don't want someone I love to be doing it. I would have thought that he'd pick me over them, am I wrong??

We've had a few talks where it's nearly ended up with us splitting but I don't want that and neither did he. One ended with him crying on my shoulder he said "I'm sorry..." and I thought he was ending it and I let out the same sob as when the nurse told me my Mum had died I just thought 'oh god this is it' but he said "I'll never do it again I'm not going anywhere" and we were good for about 3 days and that was when he went to his friends and asked for weed.

It's come about since then that he doesn't like me telling him what to do. I said I'm not telling you what to wear or eat or who you can hang out with but I don't like drugs. His friend had previously asked him to go to Sziget, a festival in Hungary. Bear in mind I asked him to go to Spain in 2013 and it took months of asking because Spain is too hot, there's nothing to do, it's expensive. So I booked a good hotel, by the theme park so we had stuff to do, all inclusive and it was onlt £400 each. He had said no to this festival before because it's about £1000 for a week. Suddenly now he's going. He said he wants to go and be ****ed all week, smoke all the weed and enjoy himself. I asked him to tell me all the drugs he's ever taken and he said it was just weed and those poppers. I asked would he ever take harder drugs like coke or heroin and all his replies are really "I can't promise you that" It's like he can't control himself or something. I feel like he's reverted and suddenly got immature and rebelling

Last night I asked him what he was doing today and he had no plans. I said I'd call him in the morning to see when he was ready for shopping. He said "because shopping is such a thrilling thing I want to do yeah I see the appeal there" which I thought was incredibly rude! I said it's a bit unfair to only say no to me because you're seeing if you get a better offer. That reply just shocked me it's not like him at all.
I asked him this morning (because he's currently still at his mates) if he was coming back here before we go back to his mates for his housewarming. I was told no and that I would have to make my way there myself and he'd meet me. I was also told there'd be lots and lots of coke there and not the drinking kind. I felt like this was just an attempt to make me not go. I asked what's changed that you want to do these things to yourself and he said he honestly doesn't know but he doesn't feel the same anymore. I asked if I was included in that but he said he's not talking about it over text. Text seems to be the only way I get an answer from him even if it is at least an hour later unless I 'threaten' to ring him. I asked if he'd be taking the coke and he said probably but but he wishes he could say for certain no but is unsure about himself these days.

I feel like this weekend is going to be it for us. I got my waist length hair cut today because I know if it is the end I won't want to leave the house.

Have I done something wrong? Does anyone know why he's acting like this? I really do not want him to end things I love him with all my heart but I can't stand this. I'm sick of crying, I'm sick of broken promises (that's why he doesn't make them because he knows he might not keep them), I'm sick of lies. I'm going to that housewarming tonight, I'm going to enjoy myself LEGALLY and if I see any warning signs from him I'm out of there and I'm calling the police :P (told my Dad that and he said I'm just like my Mum lol)

Sorry this is so long guys, just wanted you to have all the info, thank you for reading it and for any advice you have :)
 
I don't do any sort of drugs. If I loved someone and found out they did the odd bit of weed and poppers I probably wouldn't be bothered.

More the worry is about anything more than that. Anything really hard I wouldn't be with them.

It's not entirely clear but do you feel he has changed very recently/suddenly?

Is he rebelling as he sees you as trying to control him?
 
I don't do any sort of drugs. If I loved someone and found out they did the odd bit of weed and poppers I probably wouldn't be bothered.

More the worry is about anything more than that. Anything really hard I wouldn't be with them.

It's not entirely clear but do you feel he has changed very recently/suddenly?

Is he rebelling as he sees you as trying to control him?

I'm wondering if that's what it is yeah. I'm compromising my beliefs on drugs to make sure that we can stay together, it doesn't sit too well with me but I'm prepared to do it for us which I feel is more than he's doing.

I've said no drugs at all, he still did it. Now I've said okay look I'm not happy but I'll relax on the weed but if it becomes out of control like an all the time thing and you're spending all our money on it or you touch any other drug and I'm out. So that's where we're at right now. But like I said he can't promise me he won't take anything else.

I'm also concerned about this festival. If he's smoking it (and possibly god knows what else) solid for about 10 days he's going to be so ill. I'd like to hope that'd put him off doing anything ever again but I doubt it.

I have definitely seen a change in him he's not the guy I used to know, though when I say that 'that guy' was hiding the weed from me for 5+ years too! He says he never said anything because I never asked. I said that doesn't count you're supposed to be honest with me especially when you know my stance on it.
 
1) He probably is rebelling.
2) At 25 I'm not surprised he's experimenting, especially if friends do drugs.
3) Personally, I wouldn't be telling the person I love not to do things, even if I don't approve. I'd explain my view and leave it to them to choose. I'd only make an issue out of it if it was a serious problem (i.e. health/finances being impacted).
4) I get a sense you look down at people who do drugs. You other half may either sense this, or be fully aware.
 
That would be my worry. The inability to promise. Maybe he doesn't want to promise as he sees it as being controlled and he would actually never do it? I'd definitely be out at that point myself if I had a partner who did the Hard stuff (I don't know much about drugs)
And yeah if it becomes like an addiction where money starts to be burnt on it, that's also an issue

I'd personally try not to make him stop (it never works!) and see what he does. He obviously knows your views on it. Don't push him.

My ex changed in a week when we split (6 years and different thing) was it a rapid change or gradual?
 
Weed is evil the "super high me" documentary showed that a guy went without weed for 30 days then smoked it for 30 days
Benson underwent various tests to gauge his physical and mental health, first during a 30-day period in which he abstained from cannabis use, then during another 30-day period in which he smoked and ingested cannabis every day. Benson's physician concluded that the effects on Benson's health from his use of cannabis were generally inconsequential. The greatest undesirable changes noted were a weight gain of eight pounds during his "high" month and a significant decrease in his ability to do mental mathematics. His sperm count increased, contrary to what might be expected based on medical studies. His overall score on the SAT increased, mainly due to an increased verbal score
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Then there are all the medical benefits of cannabis coming out recently.

Why are you so anti drugs just because for a few decades governments were saying it's evil?
Amazingly in other parts of the world it's becoming acceptable and it's less harmful than alcohol but I bet if your bloke was going out getting drunk every weekend with you it would be fine.

sounds more like your jealous that he is doing things without you and trying to enjoy his life.

Maybe you smother him and make him feel trapped.

drugs don't make an addict the escape from reality does although someone who occasionally uses weed is no more of an addict than someone who goes out drinking 1-2 times a week is an alcoholic.


If your partner is not a very sociable person then weed is great for anxiety and stress and improves verbal skills so would help him come out of his shell and maybe thats why he seems to be a social smoker.

You being so against it is probably pushing him towards it and further away from you
 
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